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Stevie J. on September 9, 2005 9:47 AM

Right on!

YAZombie on October 6, 2005 8:26 AM

Well, I never watch TV (can you believe that), I thin kI can make a choice of my own, and yet… I still have 2 iPods! Weirdly, your text seems to infuse the idea that chosing the iPod is necessarily a bad choice! Funny…First, I ‘ve been a Mac user for a long time, and I know the quality of their products.I like the AAC format, because it gives a better quality at lower rates, and which is, I’d like to remind you, an MPEG format, so a sort of “open” format. What I don’t understand is why it’s not supported by other mp3 players on the market, when quite a lot of cell phone can read it? Maybe THEY sould make an effort.On the other end, wma is rather bad quality, and as far as I know (but I may lack of information here) is not a standard and definitely not “open”.Copy-protected files? I don’t use them, I buy my cds and rip them.FM radio? I never listen to it, I prefer no music than blah-blah (it’s only my taste, I recognize it).Style? Sorry, I like it. And I have yet to see somethnig that matches the iPod. Sony’s efforts are a nice try, but please…So, maybe for some of us, buying an iPod is a reasonable, thoughtful choice, thank you!

Tim on October 6, 2005 9:37 AM

It’s a bit presumptuous to suggest that because somebody chooses to keep using an Apple device, in spite of the other choices (maybe having considered them… GASP!), that they do not think for themselves. In doing so, you’re guilty of the same sort of bias that you’re accusing Apple “Fanboys” of.

Competition is a great thing, and perhaps somebody will dethrone Apple with a better product/service combination. To date, I haven’t seen it, and all the features that are continually touted to me (FM radio? This is why I’m listening to an MP3 player!) are simply not factors in my decision. Playlist management, an intuitive interface, broad selection of music, reasonable DRM… those are the factors for me. To date, all of the choices I’ve examined have come up short in comparison to Apple, but that doesn’t mean I won’t keep looking at other options.

I think I’ll go look for a site called, “AnythingButBrainlesslyChoosingAgainstAnyProduct.com.” Unfortunately, not many people would flock to a site that doesn’t express either a love or hate relationship with Apple or MS.

JuggerNaut on October 6, 2005 11:01 AM

If you’re going to be giving Apple grief, then you need to give Microsoft grief as well since their own PlaysForSure – On Windows Only initiative also limits choice to computer users!

cole on October 8, 2005 11:18 PM

Great info on your site. ! One day i want to replace my dell pod generation 1 with a good player to take advantage of yahoo.com music DRM.

sky on October 11, 2005 3:40 AM

I really like the design by Apple, so I decided to give it a try. I got an ishuffle in May really like the look and sounds good. But later then i find out that its really NOT USER FRIENDLY. There is no drag and drop and I to use itune to transfer songs. Well I guess since I have paid that much I can at least use it as a thumb drive, but is it too exspensive for a thumb drive. The worst thing was that it broke in july after using it for 2 months. I have sent it back and its OCT and I am still waiting for my ishuffle. Well as for me, I have decided that if Apple is not going to improve I am not going to get anything from them anymore and I am right, just look at the itune phone, very disappointing.

Apple Fanboy’s Troll on October 14, 2005 1:46 AM

Nice site. AAC, Apple and Ipod all suck.

Giancarlo on October 14, 2005 7:05 AM

Yeah I see some really bad grief here. People crying about Apple getting flak. Not my fault, that apple is starting to lose marketshare, and creative is gaining (now at 12%). Look, Apple creates a good MP3 Player.. but Creative does it better. The consumer must be informed about this and this website does its job. I don’t hate Apple.. but I think there are so many better options out there. And kudos to “anythingbutipod.com” for pointing it out! Don’t listen to the misinformed hate mail.

summer on October 17, 2005 8:51 AM

I find it really ironic that this site starts with a statement “I talk to many people that think an iPod is their only choice.” I can’t tell you how many people I talk to that think that computers that run Windows is the only option, or that think they could never use an Apple product. So much for free thinking. With that said, I’m also for open minded free commerce. If a person thinks they have a better idea, great let’s hear it. Of course the first picture I saw on this site was a Pez mp3 player. Cute, but for an adult? Also I would question giving one to a kid. Looks a little fragile. Oh well, that’s my input. Good luck with your site…

god on October 17, 2005 11:14 AM

i have been using off brand players since the RIO. with 4 gig flash memory getting very cheap, how many mp3 do you really need to carry at one time. i have no problem changing my playlists, and actually prefer it so i keep my tune list fresh….god.

TheTruth on October 23, 2005 9:00 PM

Ipod’s suckthere are superior mp3 players out there..iAudio X5 anyone?

Mario on November 5, 2005 8:59 AM

Great site! Apple users tend to be rather taleban in their opinions..

WhiteX on November 7, 2005 9:28 AM

Hey!Let me say first that the site is good, and with reliable information. The only thing unecessary is that “anti-apple-iPod-spirit” wich is, honestly, stupid.I own an iPod mini for a couple of months, and I bought it informed about several mp-3 players selled in Portugal. I didn’t want to be “another iPoder-apple-fan-that-hates-any-mp3player-that-isn’t-iPod”. But the true is: I became one. iPod is not only an excellent mp3 player; is a beatifull machine, simple and reliable. This is the fact. And you pay for it. Apple software is amazing, and so I’m considering in buying the new iPod with photo and video, 80GB wich is a LOT, and has beatifull design, that no mp3 player has reached.The ideia that this site gives is “oh my God, poor brands smashed by Apple”. Why don’t you consider that people are just tired of Sony tirany, and of Creative spaceship design mp3 players? Creative and Sony are market leaders as “cruel” as Apple, so it’s ridiculous all that “hate-Apple-that-wants-just-to-make-money” style. Apple is doing a great job, and I won’t consider so soon to change. Their products are expensive (not so expansive as that, if you compare with some wide known brands, such as Sony or Creative) but are worth the price. So please think seriously in giving away that anti-iPod spirit, and limit yourselves to information, that is what consumers realy want. Keep up the good work…

WhiteX on November 7, 2005 9:49 AM

Let me just correct that the new iPod has 60Gb, no 80Gb, sorry ;)

zebbi on November 21, 2005 3:06 PM

Thanks a lot for making this site! I had a hard time finding an alternative for the washing-machine, until i found it…

Jaclyn Cardin on November 21, 2005 11:09 PM

Damn. LOVE IT. Jaclyn

skeef on December 3, 2005 4:50 PM

If I opened a restaurant called “Anything but Rice” would you assume that I was a rice-basher? Even the half of the world’s population that eats rice every day might visit my restaurant in search of an alternative. Your focus on the alternatives is not ‘anti-Ipod’. This site provides good info on the rest of the universe of MP3 players – and there are many. It is easier to produce high quality electronic products than it is to get ‘shelf space’ to market them. It’s interesting that so many I-pod fundamentalists visit your site. You may convert a few!

Shrimp on December 7, 2005 4:16 PM

“With the iPod there are no decisions to make; you give up your right to choose.”"This site is here to present the other options, not to bash and hate the iPod.”Hmm… conflicting statements. You don’t give up the right to chose if you buy an iPod. Buying an iPod represents the choice the consumer made to CHOSE the iPod over other brand names. Just because you don’t like their choice doesn’t mean they don’t have it. It’s funny how you want to give people choice, but then you exclude the iPod … hmmmm … bias. If you really wanted to give people a choice, you’d critically assess the iPod.Maybe I should start a lookedatothermp3playersandstillgottheipod.com

sphere on December 8, 2005 12:32 PM

“Buying an iPod represents the choice the consumer made to CHOSE the iPod over other brand names.”Not when the iPod is pushed hard by most large retailers. Consumers assume because it’s the most popular that it’s “the best”. The reality is they could be spending less money and getting a far better player. The Archos Gmini402 can be bought for $220+shipping online and BLOWS away the iPod, period. The only thing the iPod has is the wheel. It’s music can’t be accessed without special software, it doesn’t have USB hosting (read: dock a camera or other player and share/move files without a PC), and it doesn’t have DVD-resolution video playback. Get the 402cc model and it can record video, all in a unit the size of an iPod. In short – f**k the iPod. It’s over-rated, over-hyped and under-performing.

fredu on December 9, 2005 2:39 PM


dominic peters on December 14, 2005 1:13 AM

wow… you’d think if the iPod really was so great these posters wouldn’t feel the need to jump down your throat.I have tons of friends with iPods. They last about 3 months a piece, and not from neglect either (at least how I’ve seen them treat their beloved players). Oh, but they get replaced right away! Yeah. So? You have to reload all of your music then, right? Not a problem — unless you are still using a small hard drive/laptop computor (like more people than you would believe), and couldn’t possibly back up those 20GB of music files. Whoops, now you’ve got to go back through and re-rip your entire CD collection. Oh, and if any of your friends gave you a CD to rip, well… just gonna have to get all those back too.I personally will stand behind something reliable that will NOT fail, and that something is either Cowon or Creative. All problems with firmware are adressed promptly and correctly from Cowon, and after one year my player is still in top condition, while friends around me are constantly turning in their iPods… even people who work at Best Buy have come out saying how many iPod returns they get.Yes, this site IS about thinking for yourself. If you did look at other options, and chose the ‘pod instead, I’m not talking about you. But you have to be fairly naive to think that a vast majority of younger buyers will purchase an iPod on the sheer fact of availability and as a fashion statement.

Nicolas Chaput on December 21, 2005 11:12 PM

I have an Ipod and realised it wasn’t the best product on the market only after getting it. The ipod isn’t a BAD product. In fact it’s great, but there probably better out there (I haven’t looked much after purchasing my Ipod, just enough to see it wasn’t the best, I didn’t want to regret it more :) . Your site is great, but might be more credible if you actually compared other mp3 players to the iPod to actually see what’s better and what’s not.

Korina on December 29, 2005 7:00 PM

I’m a kinda fan of iPod, I tried to like others mp3 and PC’s… But the evidence is that it all sucks… That’s ugly and not good for you, I have an iMac and if I compare it to a good PC, the mac beats the PC on everything… The way you say it’s our choice having an iPod is like iif we were making a mistake and thats not the case… Anyway that’s your choice having cheeps MP3′s players

shrimp on December 31, 2005 12:20 AM

“It’s music can’t be accessed without special software, it doesn’t have USB hosting (read: dock a camera or other player and share/move files without a PC), and it doesn’t have DVD-resolution video playback.”Do you even hear what you’re saying? ” Buy and mp3 player, it does tons of other crap too! When people buy an mp3 player, they want an mp3 player. Is this something hard to grasp?! When mom and pop go into a store and want something to play their music, they don’t care aboutLook, those features are great and all, but really, who needs them? Power user and techies. Your normal user just wants an mp3 player that does just that: plays mp3s. While developing the iPod, Steve Jobs focued not on a FM radio or line-in recording or even voice recording. He wanted to find a song in 5 seconds.That’s much closer to the normal mp3 player owner than you or any other techie. This brings me to your conclusion of “f*ck the ipod, you can get something better.” You may judge a product’s value on features, but I judge it on it’s ease of use. Being friendly to the user is much more important than FM radio or USB file sharing. As if Archos made it easy for anyone to use it, not just techies.I think the iPod is popular because it keeps things simple. Simple packaging, simple design, simple ads… and with gadgets and computers and cellphones being so complicated these days, it’s nice to have a breath of fresh air.

Huyster on January 2, 2006 3:53 AM

Just like 2 peas in an Ipod. It’s human nature…people like to have what everyone else is having. You walk down big city streets and what do you see…Ipod ads everywhere. You turn on your TV and what do you see…more Ipod ads. You log on the net and what do you see…win-an-Ipod ads. Give on an airplane and what do you see…sea of white Ipod headphones….hahahaaa. So what do you think mp3 virgins will want to get when they want to buy their first mp3 player? They want to be cool so Ipod it is.Not to long ago my girlfriend too wanted an Ipod because it’s stylish…so I gave her the mini. I in the other hand still use my Nex IIe and my Muvo2 from 4 years ago….dropped countless time and still ticking. She later got an Ishuffle from her company as a gift and gave it to me. I used it once in the gym and shuffled right back into its box and to one of her nephews. Oh yeah I used her mini once and haven’t touch it since but I still have to load music on her Ipod for her. This Christmas she gave 2 Nanos to her nephew and niece who are mp3 virgins.The Ipod reminds me of people who just start working out and gain some muscles….they often love to wear white wife beater.

sphere on January 2, 2006 12:41 PM

> Do you even hear what you’re saying? ” Buy and> mp3 player, it does tons of other crap too!My point was that for less money, I can get a unit that does alot more.> Look, those features are great and all, but> really, who needs them? Power user and techies.Considering they sell 3rd party accessories for the iPod to do what an Archos does built-in, I’d say someone is using them. Seriously, how many people have digital cameras? You’re telling me the ability to empty a CF or SD card to make more room while on vacation is a power-user or techy feature?> While developing the iPod, Steve Jobs focued not > on a FM radio or line-in recording or even voice > recording. He wanted to find a song in 5> seconds.So why design the “video iPod”? It’s just annoying seeing the press and everyone go apes**t over it when I’ve had video playback at nearly twice the resolution for almost a year now.> You may judge a product’s value on features, but > I judge it on it’s ease of use. Being friendly> to the user is much more important than FM radio > or USB file sharing. As if Archos made it easy> for anyone to use it, not just techies.But it is easy to use. For $180-200 online you can score an Archos XS200, which is smaller than an iPod (the smallest 20 Gig player available actually) and does nothing but music. It may not have a “click-wheel” but it’s easy as pie to operate. You browse folders with the thumbstick (or search by artist, genre, song, etc. just like an iPod), it’s easy – both my wife and my mother have them and love them.> I think the iPod is popular because it keeps> things simple. Simple packaging, simple design, > simple ads… and with gadgets and computers and > cellphones being so complicated these days, it’s > nice to have a breath of fresh air.I myself prefer choice. My mother that I mentioned before has an old-ass computer that wouldn’t even run iTunes. With the Archos I just plug it into the USB jack and turn it on, with any old computer in fact. How easy is that? No special software required. Last time I tried iTunes (or Sony Connect for that matter) it tries to hijack your system and become your complete audio utility. I just want to download songs, I don’t need the BS.

Chris Comrie on January 6, 2006 4:48 PM

Nice site. I myself always found the ipod design very seductive, especially the clickwheel, but could never bring myself to purchase such a functionally limited device.My first mp3 player was an iriver HP120 which gave me many useful options that the pretty ipod still does not. FM radio, file trees, more and better audio codecs, dedicated in and out lines, direct record in, etc. Now that was a hell of a device. And Apple was perfectly capable of making an ipod that could do all that and more, yet chose not to. Not sure why.I’ve replaced the lost iriver with an iaudio X5L, which has pretty much everything the iriver had, plus a tough metal body and an absurdly long battery life (25 to 35 hours).Then came the ipod nano. I took one look at that and bought it too, limitations be damned. I found the size and design irresistable. Now I have the nano on me at all times, and I carry the larger iaudio X5L as well about 60% of the time. Why not? It’s my choice.

Mp on January 19, 2006 1:54 PM

This site is retarded, for the simple fact that you claim to be unbiased, yet the site name is “anythingbutipod.com”This is why this web site was started, to show people their alternatives and to educate them so they are able to make their own informed decisions.An informed decision to buy anything but an ipod nonetheless.
This website is dedicated to individuals that can think for themselves. Individuals that can make a decision based on the facts not what corporations or the media dictates. Individuals that do not need TV to tell them what to do, how to think, or what to buy.
You sound like the kids outside of Hot Topic who rebel against conformity by wearing all black and listen to all the same bands……essentially “conformity to non-conformity” which is ironically, conformity.
Essentially, I would actually find this site worthwhile if it were named something like “beforeyoudecideonanipod.com” or “ipodalternatives.com” or something like that. Because honestly, an iPod isn’t right for everyone. A lot of people have different likes and dislikes, and some players will meet those needs better, or at a cheaper price. However, your site name comes off as immature, and ridiculously biased.

PP on January 20, 2006 7:31 PM

Okay, so you give people a choice and most of them choose iPOD. Granted there are a lot of dumb people out there but a lot of smart ones as well, and yet they (or at least 80% of them) still choose iPOD. Hmmmmm, that is strange. Are they being forced to do this? No. Does Apple advertise? Yes, of course they do, just like any other company would. What about turning the tables? Windows has a ton more market share than OSX. There are a lot of people out there that hate windows and MS, yet they still hold the market share. I don’t see anyone running out there and starting up a site like anythingbutwindows.com…. What do you think? By the way, if the other players had the market share that the iPOD does now and the iPOD was on the short end of the stick, you’d expect me to believe that you would not be touting the superiority of those players and dismissing the iPOD as an Apple failure? Please….

PSS on January 20, 2006 10:19 PM

Hi,I would like to add to the argument that people with iPods have made an intelligent, well thought out choice. That hype is pure b_s. The iPod is only enjoying its success because of a marketing strategy that Apple sank billions into. Not all iPod owners have made their choice carefully, they have been given iPods for free and now are stuck with that ‘OS’. I recieved free shuffle when opened a new cable TV account, and a Nano when buying a car from a local used car dealer. Now I add to the marketing hype with white wires hanging from my ears and buying accessories…I bet you are all saying “Don’t use them and buy a Creative then” and I say to you…”Why do I need another music player??!! I have two already!!!”–wife. Thanks Apple.

s10 on January 21, 2006 4:07 AM

Do you realize your website actually make people buy iPods?

GazzyC on January 21, 2006 6:00 AM

I got an iPod 20gb colour at great discount from the usual UK price, from the airport! Not only did the iPod video come out 2 weeks later at the same price, the iPod got noticable scratches after just 2 weeks. The sound is distorted with the bass on and the battery really likes to die when I need it most! Don’t get me wrong, its still a fantastic and easy to use player but its time to consider another player :-) I really like that the Zen Vision:M you reviewed has not only an FM radio but the ability to record from it! I am going to check out all the reviews to see which would be an ideal replacement for the iPod.The Sony ones also look rather nice but they have very quiet sound and clipping thanks to the EU volume limit restrictions we have here so I would have to find hacks like I did on my iPod before I considered a UK model. Thats the reason I no longer am using Sony Minidisc players.So thanks for a great site, I’m going to read some more reviews!

WeirdKid on January 23, 2006 10:12 PM

I bought a Creative Labs Nomad II back when MP3 players were first coming out — before the iPod. It worked for a week or two. I returned it to CompUSA, and after paying a 15% restocking fee, I had a new one. This one worked for about 2 days, and CompUSA told me to call the manufacturer. I called Creative, at my expense (no toll-free number) and waited 40 minutes in queue. They replaced it by swap-ship, for which I had to pay. My third Nomad stopped working 2 days after receiving it. I called and shipped again (both at my expense). The fourth one arrived DOA. I wrote Creative a nasty letter then I threw the Nomad in the trash.I bought the original 5GB iPod the week they came out, and it’s been working great ever since.Good luck.

bobba on January 31, 2006 4:46 PM

can you review the samsung 512mb (YPU1X)or 1gb (YPU1Z) players?

Stu on February 9, 2006 4:40 PM

I’ve been a Mac user for years and years and this sudden turn around that Apple is the naughty evil one is still quite bizzare for me.I have a first generation iPod, and remember being asked on trains what it was. I had had a Rio player before, but nobody passed it a glance. So to now be surrounded by white headphones is quite funny.Does that mean they’re bad now though? Does more = less? I don’t know, though I doubt they’re any worse than the other choices available. Apple, do make some good products, they’re not perfect, but they do push the industry forward.Having a site called everythingbutiPod and then talking about choice seems a bit of a misnomer. Don’t just say ‘no’ to the iPod, just because some other people have them.

Kenny on February 12, 2006 4:48 PM

I think this site is cool….Ipod is a little over blown…i own a Sony HD-5 20GB and i got to admit it is better than the Ipod 20GB…but i dont know why no body pays attention to the Ipod Killer- the sony Vaio Pocket (VGF-AP1) its a 20GB device with a stunning 2.2 inch screen, and i also dont understand why sonyy just sits back and lets apple get huge sales…they should start showing commercials too…. but anyway i like this site, but i think you should compare the PLayers reviewed here to apple products, and see if they are really better…thanks

Jim Duffy on February 15, 2006 3:50 PM

Newsflash, the Sony Bean has been discontinued. You should check your sources before you post articles on your webpage.BTW there are currently no decent alternatives to the iPod. Everyone is waving the white flag on this one. It’s incredible that some company can’t take advantage of this void in the marketplace.Who knew that Steve Jobs was that smart and that Apple was that good?

Stan on February 15, 2006 6:56 PM

This website is missing a RIP section. Off the top of my head I can name 3 entries: Rio, Dell Jukebox and Sony Bean.

Sabenko on February 15, 2006 8:00 PM

This is a great site. For a few weeks I had been saving up for an ipod video. I loved the ipod for its hype. I thought I absolutley NEEDED one. Just days before reaching my goal, i thought about searching for a possible alternative (i heard about other players before but never thought about them). Long story short,my Creative Zen Vision M is arriving within a week from amazon.com.

Tim on February 17, 2006 9:32 AM

“Think for yourself. Be an individual.” == “Think Different”?Pretty ironic, that the thrust of this site is the same set of arguments that Apple fanboys have made against Wintel boxes for years.I used to use soundjam and a Rio even after the initial release of iTunes. I bought the original iPod when it came out, and though I check out other devices from time to time, I’ve never been tempted away. It must have been the lone reliable first gen iPod. I gave it to my sister when I upgraded and it’s still providing reliable day to day service.Semantically speaking, the neutral name would be “everythingbutipod.com” not “anythingbutipod.com” ;-)

John on February 17, 2006 12:46 PM

If you are going to be a follower rather than picking the best MP3 for yourself, then don’t attack others when they pointed out your ignorant decisions.Keep up the good reviews.

superduper on February 20, 2006 9:04 AM

I quite like the iPod – I have two. I also have Panasonic’s little SV-SD750V imported from Japan, and a creative nano… Apple make an excellent player, but there are very good alternatives to be had. Likewise, I have a Mac and a PC, a playstation as well as an Xbox – People, don’t hem yourselves in! The gadget-world is a beautiful place… go explore!

Smart Shopper on February 24, 2006 9:09 PM

Apple sold 14 million ipods last quarter, which is about 100 EVERY MINUTE. Also iTunes just sold ONE BILLION downloads! Boy, there sure are a lot of uninformed people out there!! Don’t assume people buy ipods just because they are cool. They are CLEARLY easier to use and by far a superior product. The seamless combination of iPod and iTunes and the million or so accessories makes it a no-brainer. Will Mercedes or any other carmaker ever have Creative Zen integration?? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT!

The Duke on February 26, 2006 12:40 AM

The Ipod is clearly a great mp3 player, it is the current leader for sales in the mp3 market, no-one is disputing this… but this site is called “anything but Ipod” and there are other mp3 players out there that are just as good and… perhaps even better. And if you have trouble believing it, then at least be open to the fact that another company could in fact make a comparable product in terms of design and quality… if not now, then in the near future. Besides, competition is the driving force of ingenuity and innovation, which is great for the consumer.I’m just so tired of people talking about the Ipod on this blog when the owner clearly stated the premise of this site. This site has a clear and noble goal, so enough about the Ipod already.Lets talk about another great mp3 player out there on the market right now: The Creative Zen Vision M. This question is for the owners of the New Zen Vision: Is it as sweet as it seems?BTW, keep up the good work on this site. Some of us do actually appreciate it :)

Kenny on March 8, 2006 3:44 PM

Yeah its true what duke says, enough about the Ipod disputes, lets talk about other players out there…

Allan on March 10, 2006 9:58 PM

I bought a 2 gig nano because, for all the other features that I _might_ need (but rarely do), I have a 12″ Powerbook in my backpack that does everything these other players do and, obviously, then some. FM? If I cared, there are too many options out there for the one thing to be a deterrent. The price difference between the nano and other flash-based players is neglible and, personally, if I really wanted to play OGG files, I’d just boot linux on it and run with that. Whatever. Choice is good. iPod is a good product. Don’t like it? There might be a website out there that lists some great alternatives … ;)

d on March 15, 2006 11:21 AM

Love the manifesto! It’s all about freedom of choice.
If you want to locate me in a room full of audiophiles, I’ll be the one not wearing white earbuds!

oliver ward on March 17, 2006 6:32 PM

Kudos on the great site – i look back regularly for updates in the non-apple world of portable music. Having read the posts on this page, i still find it amazing that Ipod fans continually need to justify their decision/purchase. I’m not an Ipod fan, nor am i a hater, however i owned an Ipod for many years and chose to end my assosciation after having to take it back to get replaced every 12 weeks. If it worked i’d use it simple, i don’t care who makes it. And for the record, i’ve been coming to this site for months and never once in the updates have i come across “Ipod Bashing”. You’re all just too sensitive – it’s like you’ve got an inferiority complex or something.

Chris on March 17, 2006 9:35 PM

I bought 5 ipods within a month (4 nano’s and a big fat one), gave them to family members as gifts, kept the big one for myself. It works, sounds ok, don’t hate it, but I absolutely hate the white color. I’d never buy a Mac for that reason – sad but true.But after using the iPod for many months, I really dislike some aspects. I love the way you can sort by artist, album title, etc – but hate the fact that playlists can’t be sorted this way -so if you start loading up your 60 GB ipod like I did, you really can’t use playlists the way they ‘should’/'could’ work. Bad design. You should be able to select a playlist, then within last list, select albums/artists/etc. Playlists on the iPod are just flat lists of songs, while they could be just another category used to group information.The scroll wheel is way cool … but represents the triumph of form over function. up/down, left/right is more intuitive.The inability to upload data (without 3rd party software, which is what I resorted to) is a royal pain.Basically the whole Apple thing is about style and appearance, and healthy profit margins. Personally, ‘basic white’ is appropriate for laundry equipment. I want my high tech gear to be un-intrusive black.I’ve never forgiven Apple for holding firm to the ‘one-button mouse’ all these years. The concept of ‘right-clicking’ is powerful and they really should not have held out for so long. Also, scroll-wheels – ergonomic lifesaver…Speaking of ergonomics, this site’s gray-on-gray color scheme is a tad hard on the eyes … :)

Nick Feris on March 26, 2006 11:58 PM

Thank you for this site!At Christmas 2004, I bought 3 40gb iPods and a friend bought 4. 2 of mine lasted 13 months before the hard drive failed; just past warranty. My friend lost 3 out of four; some in and some past warranty.iPod is a very well marketed piece of junk. I hate the iPod, and wish Apple the worst.

MyNameIsNoConern on March 29, 2006 5:28 AM

Hi,Just wanted to tell you that even though you say you’re not an iPod basher, you do seem to bash iPod owners by saying -more or less- that consumers who buy iPod’s are not thinking for themselves…Just wanted to tell you I’ve owned 3 iPod’s until now and still think it’s a great product, haven’t had any troubles with them. The sound quality is good enough for me and I think it looks and interacts great. Those are valid reasons for me to keep buying new iPod’s if the need arises.

Ramon Richie on March 30, 2006 4:40 AM

Good site. It’s great to be informed. But I would to see in the reviews: 1. How easy is to pick a song out of a thousand. 2. Support for smart playlists. 3. Support for auto-sync/update4. Browse by “xxx” functions are available. e.g. artist, album, genre.I choose an iPod because of the autosync stuff, smart playlists and being able to choose a particular song in a few clicks. The MP3 players I have seen didn’t come close to this, but of course I haven’t seen all. So it would be great if you could include this info. It will make a “choice” well informed and taken…

Joel M on March 31, 2006 1:18 PM

Just a note about your site. I think it’s great to offer people a choice in MP3 players. Apple isn’t the only game in town, however, I think it’s the system that works here for Apple as well as their players. There is NO other player with the universe of accessories, integrated speakers, headphoness, remotes and other devices that the iPods have. That is simply a fact and one that people who choose a different player should realize. That is why I think your statement that, “This website is dedicated to individuals that can think for themselves,” is not really true at all. You aren’t offering your readers a choice when you leave out critical reviews of iPods and its many accessories.BTW, your more rabid iPod haters that claim that iPods don’t last (and yet claim to have owned several, what are they stupid or insane?), I’ve had the samew 3G for nearly three years and going. The battery is still strong and it still looks and works great!And the many friends who have iPods not only love them, but they’ve had similar long life-spans. Several with the original 5GB model that Apple released in 2001!You readers should check out the model history at:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod. . . and then realize that while they may not prefer an iPod, many of us out here do and they ROCK!Joel

ct on April 7, 2006 11:05 AM

i dont see why some people are saying that the name “anythingbutipod” is somehow bashing ipods. The website is exactly what the name implies. It discusses and compares anything but ipods. if the website was “screwipods.com” then you’d have a case but there is nothing negative about the name

Stickyboy on April 7, 2006 12:20 PM

Here’s an interesting article from Forbes.http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/0424/054.html

grace on April 11, 2006 8:32 PM

ipods are soooo bad. i’m a creative person all the way. why would you want something that EVERYONE has? it’s just boring. all computer/tech whizzes i know know well enough not to get an apple ipod. the battery doesn’t even last.out of about 10 close friends that have an ipod, NONE of them has not yet had NO problems with one. and most of them are unfixable problems. this one person i know is even stupid enough to keep buying new ipods after her old ones break on their own accord!if you wanna waste your money, get an ipod.

Plan303e on April 15, 2006 1:57 PM

Great site. It’s easy to find iPod reviews, but much harder to find a good site that sheds light on the competition. Variety is good for life, especially when it isn’t trashy.

(Response to “MyNameIsNoConern”: Ever try another product, namely, products this guy has reviewed? Considering he actually goes through his products [literally], and has examined and owns several iPods himself, he is very well versed. If you very much like limiting and closing yourself, then by all means, ignore “variety, the spice of life.”

(Response to Joel: wikipedia is one of the worst places for reliable information. It’s open to change by ANYONE, which is why it has perpetual problems of vandalism)

I’ve come with a thoughtful [informal] essay on the iPod. I simply wish to provoke consideration on two seemingly different but inherently similar topics.

Many people supported the dead-as-we-knew-it Napster as it allowed for the diffusion and distribution of information and the arts, which in this case would be music in the form of MP3s.

The music industry, at that time, was denounced for providing declining quality in CDs, as albums had one or two in-demand songs surrounded by unwanted fillers. The industry also added insult to injury by raising the price of CDs.

Difficult to obtain songs that were otherwise unavailable were made available through Napster.

Radiohead enjoyed the promotional power of Napster, as it actually stimulated sales since the album was distributed three months before it was officially released. With little promotion in the traditional sense, it was expected to hurt sales, but actually allowed Radiohead to beat out heavily marketed artists and attained number one on the charts in the US, a first time for the group.

Essentially, the music industry was citied for limiting the spread of information while Napster was hailed for just the opposite.

Now, when we get to the iPod, opinions surprisingly change. There is often uninformed, but absolute support for iPod. Some people rebuke its critics, claiming such people “simply don’t want to use it just because everyone is using it.”

But is that the case? If they would actually think about it, the iPod embodies everything Napster fought.

Restriction of music through the exclusive use of Apple’s DRM and iTunes.

In conjunction, incompatibility with other music providers, such as Napster(as-we-NOW-know-it) and Yahoo!

Consequentially, there are limited functions such as the lack of true support for popular file types such as MP3 and AVI, the former being blocked off in cases involving providers such as Rhapsody and eMusic, and features such as Drag-And-Drop.

Inability to easily convert and therefore share music among different users and digital media players.

Sound quality, relative to its closest competition, is among the worst as rated by audiophiles.

A product, in light of its restrictions, provides much less for its closest competition in the same price range.

In addition, Apple has the plan to perpetually milk you with their battery replacement service, where you either send it in for about $50 dollars to replace every 18 months, or go out and buy yourself a new one.

Sadly, it seems the latter choice seems to be the most widely used, as most people see their old one as severely degraded in value, or at least use the former because their dead iPod has sentimental value or they simply don’t want to reload songs.

Proprietary accessories galore, though there really isn’t a point of having so many if you’re just going to listen to music, which in this case ranks fairly low for the iPod.

Apple has a [losing] share of 82% of its music market, but by no means does it deserve any arguments for being a natural monopoly, as this industry is much more effective and useful to the consumer through perpetual competition.

Sure, almost everyone’s using one, and shouldn’t that be enough? But ironically, doing so would perpetually limit and restrict ourselves – we are selling our freedom to Apple.

I know I’ve never sold my freedom to Apple, but yes I did consider buying their first generation model. But, that time of ingenuity has passed, and I’ve yet to see another truly competitive product coming from Apple that doesn’t use its brand name and word-of-mouth hype to muscle in on the market.

Personally, I was sold on the mobiBlu cube. It looks different, plays different, and packs quite a punch for its size. And shoot, I hate HDD and love flash, and I really don’t horde music. I’m too lazy to even have 10 GBs of music, and I only listen to about an amount equal to 6 normal CDs of music, occasionally switching out playlists from my static pool.This site (and my friends moaning about the problematic Nano) set me for the mobibBlu.UMS, UMS!!!

Babaje on May 2, 2006 3:33 PM

You’re a fool. All of this ‘going against the grain’, ‘not following the crowd dosen’t, make you distinctive or informed it just makes you seem bitter and resentful. iPod have the greatest market share, whnever another company gets within a mile of cathing up with the great products apple produce, apple releases a superior product and other companies have to spend months catching up look at the nano and samsung little mp3 player. All YOU are doing as a blogger is INCREASING THE PROFILE OF THE IPOD BRAND which i’m sure they don’t mind. iPod made the mp3 player something that you see in nearly every home in the developed world not just a piece of techie gadgetry and other mp3 manufacturers should pay credit to apple.

Matt on May 20, 2006 12:35 PM

I like this site. I recently purchased a Samsung player and not an iPOD because I don’t believe in purchasing a product simply because others say it’s popular. I am quite happy and content with my choice. While I don’t hate Apple and respect what the iPOD has done for the mp3 industry, I simply felt that there were players out there that met my needs better.Why all the hostility on this site? It’s kind of like buying a Ford truck and then going on a site called http://www.fordtrucksarejunk.com and getting snippy and all mad that people are putting down your truck. If all of you iPOD enthusiasts love your product so much, how about this. You create a site called http://www.ipodsareandwillbethebestmp3playerever.com and post at great length about how great and superior your product is and how misinformed and untrendy every non-iPOD owner is and we non iPOD owners will never visit your site or post on it, in exchange for your guarantee to never visit this site again or post on it. Deal? Sometimes it’s just better to agree to disagree. I swear, some of you guys could land a job in the Apple PR / Marketing Departments with these posts you write.

Boris Dimitrov on May 21, 2006 9:15 AM

nicely said, nothing to add :P

You people might consider a life on May 22, 2006 3:39 PM

So I have to ask Why the Anti iPod mongering. Your site ruins any hope of unbiased opinions in the url. I wont claim to be anything but an Apple fan. But there is a distinct reason there has not been a player to dethrone the iPod. INTERFACE. Until someone anyone can come up with an easier to use interface the iTunes iPod combo will remain potent. The information on your comment page is all unbiased and frequently outright wrong. So did sandisk offer you guys money to link to your site? And while you are at it enjoy your beset upon by all manner of windows experience.Get a life

Noodly Appendage on May 22, 2006 3:44 PM

It’s sad when jealousy and ignorance prevail over the facts. Ipods are the best at what they do. period. Why do you think ALL of the other brands combined have not sold as well. Are there other GOOD music players out there? Sure. Better? A resounding NO. I don’t kow about everyone else, but my iPod plays AAC, MP3 and whatever else I choose to put on it. How about this trick… Download a song from iTunes. Burn it to a CD. Delete the track from your library and then import it back into iTunes from the CD. COPY PRETECTION GONE. There’s nothing “conformist” about buying a quality product. Stop whining.

fred on May 22, 2006 4:10 PM

its not an Ipod, ipod, IPOD, iPOD…It is called ‘iPod’… what is so darn difficult about that?..I am now using my second iPod, my first was a 20 GB 2nd gen, it hasnt stopped working, I gave it to my grandma who still loves it, I now have a 60 GB 5th gen, no problems, best stuff out there..I have seen people come along with other brand mp3-players, they’re often fragile and fail fast..

kit on May 22, 2006 5:05 PM

cool website…idont.comhttp://www.idont.com/

Bystander on May 22, 2006 6:31 PM

well I guess some guys just need to rebel against something…if it’s iPOD for you guys…well….some people do sports ;)

Paperbag on May 22, 2006 8:45 PM

Too bad that most MP3 players can’t be used with the Mac. Nice of Apple to include everyone.

Jason Martin on May 22, 2006 9:42 PM

I am an iPod owner. I think it is far-and-away the best all-around multimedia player out there. I actually didn’t know how good it was until my wife got one for me this past Christmas. I consider myself a bit of a technophile, so I try to find out as much about a category of technology, and I haven’t found anything that approaches the iPod, in my opinon.That said, I think what you guys are doing is great. We need people out there to review and tell us about other alternatives because one day someone else will make a device that is vastly superior to the iPod at a similar or lower price. And I, for one, want to know about it.I would challenge the notion, however, that the iPod is for people who can’t think for themselves. While it’s true that the iPod is not perfect (for instance, I wish it supported other DRM formats), but it best fits my needs. Plain and simple. Also, you write that this web site is aimed at “Individuals that can make a decision based on the facts not what corporations or the media dictates. Individuals that do not need TV to tell them what to do, how to think, or what to buy.” I don’t believe that’s fair. The iPod is poplular because it’s good. Just because someone owns one does not mean that they haven’t investigated the alternatives and made the decision they believe to be the best for them. “The facts” are that different people have different needs. If the iPod does not fit your needs, fine. But you should acknowledge that it does fit the needs of many others. Speaking from experience, I can tell that is a “fact”.Keep up the (mostly) good work.

Steve on May 23, 2006 2:08 AM

So you want to force us to use Windows? Talk about “face in the crowd!”Show me another music player and service that supports my ability to choice what computer and OS I wish to use. (with respect to other Unix users)To conclude, I do “Think for yourself” and I am an “individual.”That’s why I use an iPod.

gl on May 23, 2006 3:05 AM

first off, i think you guys are doing an awesome job giving alternatives to the iPod. i will say that some views aren’t exactly the most fair (i.e. sometimes slightly bashing the you-know-what-Pod). nevertheless, you guys do a great job with keeping the world (at least this part of it) informed about other choices.for most of my life, i’ve been using Linux on my PCs and am very happy with it. i don’t need Windows or Mac. so i needed an mp3 player that would handle Linux right out of the box. i also needed something that can take a heavy beating and last a minumum of 15+ hours straight as i won’t settle for a “recharge every single night” DAP. i read all the raves about the Rio Karma, but was sad to find out that it has been discontinued. i almost bought an iRiver, but found out that it’s plastic. so i settled for an iAudio X5L, and have no regrets.i’m glad i didn’t buy the iPod for one specific reason: i get all the features that i want (FM radio, USB OTG, voice recorder) plus accessories for less than the price of just a 30GB iPod Photo (surprisingly too!). when i was shopping, i was pretty sure the the iPod was cheap. but to my surprise, it wasn’t!i agree that iPods can look cool and what not. and i find looks completely irrelevent to what it should be able to do. unfortunately, the iPod has become a fashion accessory more than anyhting now, especially with the Nano model. and that is doing injustice for the Apple MP3 players.lots of people are saying that it’s not fair to call the iPod the “idiot’s MP3 player”, blah blah blah. but in essence, it really is. i know lots of people who have bought the iPod because they truly are “idiots” – technology idiots that is. they have very little knowledge about computers other than Microsoft Word, Internet Explorer and the On/Off switch on their computers. the iPod’s included software like iTunes makes digital audio a breeze for the technologically challenged (and a total cinch for people who can program their own OS’s). i’m a computer science major, so i don’t need some program to baby my way through transfering music from hard drive to DAP. i want quick drag’n'drop functionality, and a non-ID3 browser on my DAP. my other reasons for not getting an iPod.so iPod enthusiasts (i avoid using “fanboys” here), say what you will about this site. it’s true that some of the words used aren’t exactly the most neutral and respectful of Apple. but i can’t say that your views about other non-iPod sites/MP3 players are any better. sometimes, iPod enthusiasts can be more vicious and hateful than most criminals in solitary confinement.btw, some of you iPod fanboys here are even more “bitter” and “hateful” than most of us non-iPod owners here, simply because we don’t agree with loving the iPod. ironic, isn’t it?@Chris on March 17, 2006: i love your little comment of the grey-on-grey. too true :D . also: “Personally, ‘basic white’ is appropriate for laundry equipment. I want my high tech gear to be un-intrusive black.” get an iAudio X5, mate ;)

Ryan Smith on May 23, 2006 9:58 AM

The funny thing is, I’m the kind of person that would love the cheapest and best possible hardware for what I want it to do. I usually never buy the brand name is there is a good alternative. I’ve bought a lot of different mp3 players such a rio in the past. But I have to say, I bought a nano, and I absolutely love it. I’m no Apple lover or any type of fanboy, I just love listening to podcast. If Microsoft would make a good media player that would support podcast, and if a company would make a really nice player like the nano for a good price, I would be all over it. But I can’t find anything that compares on price and size to the nano. If there is something that would do what I want I would like to know about it, because at the moment, the ipod seems to be the only option for me. Now my wife on the other hand likes her’s because it’s cute. But again, that’s something that other device makers need to address as well.

priority on May 23, 2006 11:05 AM

I’ve read my way through most of this site and one thing is obvious – more people seem to use and love their iPods than would choose ‘anything but’ iPod. So what is the site for? It seems to be defeating its own purpose!I’d agree with the basic thread running through that claiming to be unbiased, and encouraging the use of alternatives, while aparently trying to eliminate iPods from the equation is basically stupid.I use an iPod, but I’m not tied in any way to purchasing music from the iTunes Music Store (I never have), I don’t have a Mac, and I don’t adore Apple.So what’s the beef? The iPods is the world’s number 1 MP3 player and you should just accept it! Go buy something else if you want.

Eon on May 23, 2006 12:19 PM

When iTunes first came out there was support for a number of MP3 players out there (I’m talking about the MacOS9 days). Being that Microsoft isn’t creating a version of Windows Media Player for Mac that supports these “Plays for Sure” sanctioned devices, There is only the iPod and flash players that work via drag and drop on the Mac. Of course now with Boot Camp, Apple has circumvented Microsoft’s PC only agenda and those that wish to uses other players can do so in a Windows session or concurrently with Parallel’s software. However, check out DLTV’s demonstration of Windows Media Player 11 and how many times it froze up on Patrick. It seems to indicate that Apple has a better understanding of how to make software to interact with peripheral devices better than Microsoft. With all of the different PC designs out there it’s not fair to blame Microsoft being that it’s impossible to test their software on every PC made.

goodtrip on May 23, 2006 12:36 PM

I want one of those iriver clix things……..so i can have choice and think for myself…….what’s that ?dropped out of the mp3 player business ???DAMM YOU APPLE !!!!!

Le Snah on May 23, 2006 12:59 PM

Apple is trying to get me to think differently. I think just fine thank you, but if Apple had its way, I would be thinking differently by buying branded products of limited variety, that provide media through their proprietary Digital Restriction Management and entering a homogenous environment of do everything one way, our way. If this is thinking differently, then I must be crazy.Other than that, the iPod is a reasonable device. It’s not terrible. Scratched perhaps too easily, but it is definately not the best thing out there. So it troubles me that it has such a huge market share, because it will inevitably start acting like a monopoly (oh wait, it already has).I quite like Hyun Won / MobiBlu (http://www.mobiblu.com). Especially the tiny cubed DAH-1500′s.

TranceByDesign on May 23, 2006 3:17 PM

okay i dont want to start a disscusion here, but i’ll do it anyway..first of all, some things that i’ve read why the ipod is that good.design: okay simple question of taste, there are others that look better, others that look worser, but this is for me no reason to spend more money on a mp3 playerreliability: well i dont have a ipod, but i’ve seen several (read: alot) of comments everywhere on the web, about the ipod breaking after 2/3 months of usage, i dont call this reliable.also Tim even said: i want a broad selection of music.well this is just the dumbest comment i ever heared. an ipod is a mp3 player wich plays every mp3. just like everyother mp3player. Please tell me how the ipod has a broaders music selection than any other player?also i see alot of “there is a reason ipod is king”-comments. Well the only reason that ipod (just like microsoft) is the marketleader, is because of all those anoying adds you see on your computer/television/radio. If another manufacturer (like creative) does this, it would have been much more popular.also, lets look at the facts. The first ipod had a black&white screen, while others from that time already had color screen, could view pictures and movies. only the later generation ipods had all these features (while the first ipod picture thingy couldnt even show video :o ). These features are clearly stolen from the other mp3players that were even in their eyes better.ps. the comments about all the useless features, well everyone wants a car that goes from 1 to 100 kmph in 4.1 seconds, but will you ever use it? no offcourse not. there is no parking lot that has a road next to it where you are allowed to go 100 kmph.anyways, i try to say that if you can get something with the same (even more) features for the same price why dont you take that?and remember kids, every time you pay for tracks on itunes, god kills a kitten

koen on May 23, 2006 4:55 PM

Nice site… I have an iPod nano myself but I like the way you present consumers with alternatives.The only thing I don’t understand is why so many visitors get angry about each other’s choice of mp3 player. Why are some of you so insulted when someone says they don’t like your mp3 player? Come on, it’s not a religion!

!iConform on May 23, 2006 5:08 PM

I completely support this site.somebody said that AAC has good sound quality with low rates, this is bullsh*t. AAC is a lossy format, meaning bad quality. it also has DRM put on it by apple themselves.the same person said that WMA is a bad quality sound format. this person is again wrong, because WMA is a lossless format. it also has no DRM assosiated with it.Zen Vision for the win!

Muddleglum on May 23, 2006 5:52 PM

Wow people get upset when you point out that apple is just a fashion accesory. Fact is almost every other MP3 player made has more function and choice of format than the ipod.I love the new Mac computer comercials that try to make it look like Mac’s can do so much more than a PC… funny when like 99% of all software in the world is for PC. Buy a mac forget playing most games, Oh but you bought a mac for the music software didn’t you.. Oh wait a PC does everything a mac does plus a thousand more. It’s pure fashion stupidity.Oh and Mac couldn’t hack it with there own chips anymore and went to Intel lol. Wow they are so freakin amazing =POh and replaceable batteries is a very good thing thanx.

eNos128 on May 23, 2006 6:02 PM

uh… let’s set some facts straight*not all WMA is lossless, only WMA Lossless is*WMA and AAC have the ability to use DRM but it is not required*WMA, AAC, MP3 are all lossy formats*Microsoft and Apple both offer lossless options but neither work on most portable players*AAC is a Dolby Labs compression algorithm that only has a majority on apple iPods and for some mobile phones (Nokia and others), mostl likely beacuse it is the default*WMA is comparable to AAC bit for bit from a sound quality standpoint, especially when played through low end (

Joel on May 23, 2006 8:03 PM

I can’t believe this. You’re treating people who own iPods like sheep? Haha. I’ve been an avid Apple user from the start of using Computers. The Mac was always the alternate choice and all of you sheep were using PCs. Now Apple makes a successful product and you want to lump us iPod users in the same category as you boring PC users? Lame.

Muddleglum on May 23, 2006 8:32 PM

Yes pay more for less!

Joel on May 23, 2006 8:39 PM

Muddleglum – You don’t seem to know a lot about computers. Apple never made their own chips. IBM actually did. Ironic isn’t it. And there is a very good reason why Apple didn’t go Intel until now. You know how much legacy code had to go into each and every Intel x86 chip just to make every program written since 1902 work on your peecee?And your software comment. Uninformed again. Most of the mainstream apps are available for Mac and many apps are exclusively made for Mac. These software packages you speak of… what are they? Specialist stuff I bet.

Dan Eriksson on May 23, 2006 8:59 PM

I think iPod is the best. It looks good, tastes good, feels good an is good.

Wesley on May 23, 2006 9:05 PM

I think the biggest problem that people don’t realize most of the time is that the iPod (as well as any other player) isn’t for everybody, and most of the bias flying around in either direction really isn’t worth anything. Some people like spending less money because they don’t want what another player has to offer for more money, some people want features, some people want an ugly player :) , some people want a nice looking player, some people like ease-of-use… Different factors are important to different people. I can understand the want for a techie-friendly player, and I can understand the want for “just an MP3 player.” I think everybody really needs to realize that, too, and it’s obvious that some of you guys don’t.As for myself, I’m quite the techie. There was one point where I had five computers in my room. I’ve used Windows, Linux, Mac OS, countless others. I build machines, I break them, I fix them, overclock them, whatever. But when it comes to an MP3 player, I don’t want to fiddle for 10 minutes putting music on my player and then searching for it as I go to work, and I don’t want a load of features that I don’t need and won’t ever use (FM tuners, etc. — I’ve never bought even ONE iPod accessory, not including the iPod dock, which came with my 3G which still worked 3 years later when I sold it). That’s why the iPod is good for me and people like me. Even techies don’t always want to be bothered with that stuff. Sure, there are some other players out there that are nearly as easy, but usually just don’t fill all the factors I want in an MP3 player, and that happens to be the case for a lot of people. The small minority of people that always want FM radios and filesystem level library access sometimes don’t understand that such features AREN’T the only factor of purchasing a product. I want something easy to use, small, style is cool but not the most important thing, fairly reliable (I don’t know what some of you guys did, but replacing an iPod 5 times in a month is not normal), just plays music, and doesn’t give me a hassle every time I want to update the library, or search for songs. I also need something that works with Mac (Windows user for 10 years, got sick of it and switched) and most other players…their manufacturers don’t have the foresight to make them compatible. Most importantly, it just works, which I hadn’t found with some MP3 players I used before the iPod’s release a few years ago. I feel my decision was informed, and when friends and family wanted to get MP3 players, I tried to point them where they needed to be. Not all of them get iPods, but many do because they value the same things I do for such a purchase. And just let me say, I don’t know why the “everybody else has it” thing should EVER be a factor. It shouldn’t if the player otherwise fits your needs, and if it still bothers you, put it in a case, and get rid of the white earbuds. You don’t need to use those buds. I don’t.I’d also like to make a point about some of the misinformation floating around about DRM and formats. Almost every player out there supports DRM in some form. This doesn’t mean you can’t put non-DRMed files on your player. Most people still use MP3s, and EVERY player supports them. Some formats like OGG won’t be supported as well because most people don’t use them (I still don’t know anybody who does. I don’t even know anybody who uses WMA…). All the other music stores are just as evil for using Windows Media DRM just as Apple is for their own DRM. So please, just stop that BS.That’s about it really. Buy what you want and what fits your needs. You can’t call one product crap on behalf of everyone just because it doesn’t fit your needs.To that Muddleglum guy: Reading your words, if you’ve actually ever used a Mac for an extended period of time, I’d be surprised. The only game I can’t get for Mac OS that I’ve wanted to play was Oblivion, and this is coming from a pretty hardcore gamer with a large library of games. If the Mac was purely a fashion statement, as a techie I wouldn’t own one. It’s at least as functional, fast, and productive as a PC, if not moreso, and that’s probably being a bit generous to Windows. The only reason they run on Intel chips now is because IBM doesn’t care about the desktop market and Freescale can’t hack it. The chip inside doesn’t make the system or the experience — the software does. Don’t be a troll.The only software I’ve seen that doesn’t at the very least have a Mac OS equivalent is of the type custom written by IT firms for the companies they work for.

Muddleglum on May 23, 2006 10:04 PM

As a rule from the many, many, mistakes I made as a computer consumer is any propritory system is a bad idea. Mac’s being the most over priced mistake I have made to date. I have a G4 that I bought for music production that is now an email station for guests. Pro-tools is like unafordable. I use my PC for everything now.Please tell me what my G4 can do for me so I can tell myself I didn’t waste a huge wad o cash on it.

Joel on May 23, 2006 10:20 PM

Once again Muddleglum, you’re not making sense. You haven’t explained at all how your purchase of a G4 (which by the way is a CPU not a computer, but I’ll cut you some slack) has made your music production come to a halt.And I wasn’t aware that Pro-tools on the Mac was so less affordable than it is on Windows. I must look into that.And what do you mean by “proprietary system”? Windows is a completely non standards based closed source system. Apple uses standards and a proportion of their OS code is open source. I’m still not sure what problems exactly you’re having with your “proprietary system”, but let it be known that Mac OS X is not proprietary.And I’m not even going to go into the price debate with you.

Muddleglum on May 23, 2006 11:11 PM

Well windows is my OS but for one thing it doesn’t have to be. A PC can be windows or any number of things but a mac is a mac right? But I am talking about the computer as a whole. Don’t buy a Dell or HP or Gateway or a mac, anything like that is what I am saying. You end up haveing to send your whole computer back if somthing goes wrong you could just fix yourself at Microcenter or somthing. Not that you can’t with a Dell, Gateway, or Mac but chances are you will be voiding a warranty. I had a powersupply go bad that cost me 15 bucks to replace, they wanted me to buy their’s for like 150 bucks and then told me that I would have to buy a new computer but that I could do a trade in for a lower price on a new one when they told me the overpriced power supply was out of stock or discontinued.It comes down to choice and with a mac you have even less than normal and I don’t get why anyone is ok with that. Seriously you go to the computer store pick out each part you want, your choice of processors, everything. You can get a warranty and know you can swap parts of whatever brand of anything you want in it. Use the biggest selection of software and never be bummed you can’t do somthing on the computer you just bought for a fraction of the price of a new mac. And im sorry if ya don’t want to discuss price but thats a MAJOR factor in life for most of the world.Pro-tools was a mac thing they have a windows version now I know but it’s expensive too. My buddy has a set up and you can buy all these instument packs and sounds and stuff to add into it but they are expensive. At the point he was at with his he said it was about 15 grand or more in add on’s. I use a like 3 different programs on my PC because I like what each one can do and I think I dropped like 100 bucks tops.If you ask the regular non techie musician what you would want a mac for pro-tools would be the answer and thats why I bought the mac. I say I got ripped off. PC’s can do anything a Mac can do and everything else a mac can’t. And you pay more for a gimped computer/mp3 player cause it has a slick case and logo.

Wesley on May 24, 2006 12:13 AM

If you can list something that a PC can do that a Mac can’t that isn’t insanely obscure, I’ll give you a cookie. Honestly, those kind of things exist on each platform. Price isn’t a good debate anymore, either. Until you get to the high end hardware, you can’t build a PC for less than a Mac, feature for feature. You might say, “Sure, I can build a faster one for less” but you’re not going apples to apples on the features (no pun intended). Try to build a PC that has everything an iMac has for less. And the question I have for you regarding choice is, why am I lacking choice if the machine I buy already does everything I want that I’d build on my own otherwise, and it’s not running Windows? I’d rather take the Mac simply because I don’t need to deal with X card not working with motherboard Y (which has happened to me several times before) and I don’t have to deal with an OS that likes to develop bugs and crash more than I should have to deal with. That’s the whole point of buying one. I think choice is being able to do whatever I want with the software on the machine without fearing the blue screen of death. If you’re going against all manufactured computers, I understand your point. I built my own PCs for 10 years, and I upgraded my main machine at least once a year. Problem is that I just got tired of dealing with the conflicts every time I did. Hell, part of the choice I made was between dealing with a bug-ridden OS on a machine of random parts that took far too much tweaking to make work, or getting a machine that just works. I don’t think I was lacking choice at all, and I made my decision and I’m happy with it. I might be a techie, but I don’t like to waste my time fixing things.I don’t buy your story about the PSU thing. Apple keeps old stuff on stock for years after they discontinue sale of the machine. Unless you were about five years out on that machine, they should have had a part, and no powersupply unless it’s a POS costs $15. I don’t believe that $150 quote either, and if that was true, you could have searched eBay and done it yourself for a reasonable price. After all, you’re used to building your own machines, so it shouldn’t be a problem.But yeah, in regards to price, I’m serious. Price out something feature for feature next to the iMac. I tried to price out piece by piece a new Core Duo system based around the hardware a 20″ iMac has, hit the cost of the Apple machine and still didn’t have a case or powersupply listed for the PC. I’m not even sure if I included the cost of the OS yet at that point (yes, software counts, and you get more of it on a Mac, too). Do-it-yourself isn’t as cheap as it used to be, and most of the other manufactured machines aren’t so high quality even if they’re cheaper. I think I’ll stick with the Mac. This “overpriced” stuff is now a myth.

Peter Farla on May 24, 2006 3:51 AM

You don’t like the iPod but you have a lot of Adsense on your website even an advertisement of Apple:AppleStore NederlandiPod, iMac, iBook en meer! Snel leverbaar in heel Nederland.store.apple.comVery sad & stupid…

skrag on May 24, 2006 4:59 AM

Come on, the iPod is ‘locked’ into DRM. No it’s not, it has ‘support’ for iTunes DRM, the vast majority of MP3 players have problems playing ANY DRM files, beleive me I in no way support DRM and think it is evil, however it’s not an iPod specific problem.Stereophile has repeatedly claimed that the iPod has the most neutral and analytical sound of all modern DAP’s, however in my personal experience all top flight DAPs have pretty much the same sound quality, albeit with slightly different ‘flavours’.In the UK the iPod is (apart from Sony) the cheapest big-name MP3 player available. I did not buy an import because I want a gaurantee (ALL hard disk DAP’s break, I’ve owned Apple, Creative and iRiver in the past, all have had failed drives) and did not want to pay the (large) import fees.By all means the Apple monopoly is a bad situation for the consumer, but when few companies make products that compete quality and feature wise, and then these companies fail to make products available internationally, this situation will only continue.When I purchased my 5G 60gb iPod I really wanted the X5. however it would have cost me me £100′s more to buy from a reputable seller. Now there is Rockbox for the iPod I am glad I made this purchase instead of the X5.The creative vision m certainly seems like a very nice DAP (especially if you actually use the video features) but again is more expensive than the iPod in the UK.By all means continue to promote the alternatives, this is much needed and helps all consumers, however posting ill-infromed and incorrect opinions about the iPod make it very difficult for anybody to take your reviews etc. seriously.Finally can people stop comparing the failings of 1st gen iPod’s to current players (yes the first gen sucked, I loved my nomad, there can be no doubt it was much better than Apple’s offering), the modern iPod has good battery life, sound, price and using popular media players like Winamp, Foobar etc is no longer locked to iTunes in anyway (a good reason to hate Apple, iTunes for mac=nice efficient reliable program, iTunes for PC=slow, unreliable bloatware)

Aaargh on May 24, 2006 5:07 AM

Don’t have a problem with people using IPod. Personally I wouldn’t buy it because I think the device is too large and too expensive. But if you want to carry a harddrive with you all the time and bring your entire music-collection with you where ever you go, then perhaps an IPod is interesting. Oh, IPod could be interesting to use in the car.There is one thing I do dislike about IPod. “The Image”. It is not a cheap device and it seems that everybody should have one. This seems to be a lot of pressure for kids. People get robbed because they got an Ipod or kids walkaround with only the earplugs so people think they own an Ipod. That’s sad….but reality.

Eldon Hutzezon on May 24, 2006 6:13 AM

Saw it (What! no geek buttons)Bought it (What? I just want the iPod not buy the entire company)Use it (Music, podcasts and pictures awesome)and LOVE it. (Best buy in years)

Lawrence_o@pandora.be on May 24, 2006 10:30 AM

When I was young, I bashed a friend of mine who drove a Merc. Well, bashed, I told him I couldn’t understand why he paid so much money while to my opinion there were other cheaper cars as good as a Merc.Instead of defending himself, he smiled and said, “One day, you’ll understand.”I’ve been driving Mercs for 7 years now and I do understand…iPods are a lifestyle, an identification, proof one has got taste and can appreciate art. Yes, the creative labs Zen has a radio and other features and for the same price. But the thing is, it’s a Toyota, not a Merc…Learn to live with it, iPods rule.

YCRAN on May 24, 2006 11:36 AM

The reason the iPod is so successfull is becauseof people like me that have previously owned “other” mp3 palyers and were disappointed by thier lack of innovation.I had been looking for the mercedez of the mp3 players and thank goodness for apple the came out with the iPod.Apple once again sets the standards!and all these “wanna-be iPod mp3 palyers” are now trying to capitalize on apple’s success!!

aml on May 24, 2006 12:59 PM

I am all for thinking for yourself and thinking outside the box.I owned one of the very first iPods (generation 1) and have owned one of every generation since. Nothing is as compatible with my computer and my lifestyle. I began by not following the norm.But if the competitors are suggesting that iPod buyers are sheep, what are their designers. Every concept out there is a wanna be iPod…. let me know when someone creates something original and better.

Neutral on May 24, 2006 6:07 PM

well apple just did a better job at advertising it. i agree that there are other great mp3s, i own an ipod and is great, i have some ways to make it better but it was well worth my cash.. im sure there all great… i like your idea of taking a step back and analysing every thing… props

Creative Labs Inc. on May 25, 2006 3:06 AM

Fashion and trends have always defied explanation in my mind. That may be because I HAVE a mind. A memory also helps. Remember when knee length shorts would get you beaten up? Now, you can’t be a respected Gen-X poser without them. In a while, they’ll be considered grounds for a beating again. There’s no logic to trends, fashion and “fitting in.” Which brings us to my delayed point. There are superior, less expensive, more easily maintained MP3 players out there, but “everyone” (read, mob mentality sheep) buys the iPod series. In a way, this is good. Spending is good for the economy. In other ways, very bad. It only prolongs the mentality of “fitting in” rather than making informed choices. I fear most of Gen-X will be voting for the “coolest looking liberal candidate that my friends seem to like” in 2008, rather than the true best choice. Doesn’t matter though. As Carl W. says in ATHF. You’re gonna die. Probably get stabbed.

pineapples son on May 25, 2006 3:42 AM

well now i love the site it does inform the peeps of the world, and the ipod really does need to be cleaned up and i totally agree that the company is just trying to us junk but please peeps its a company trying to stay in business. so just carry on coz i dont want them as much as other peeps.

Skeewe on May 25, 2006 4:07 AM

Hello,I am getting ready to purchase new MP3 player, and so far my choice is IPod Nano. Please, don’t hate me, I have my own reasons. Why Ipod Nano?1. Flash memory with big capacity (4GB)2. Built in stopwatchB’cose I am active runner, those features are important to me and seems that only Nano meets that criteria. If anyone knows any other player with same features let me know, I may change opinion. I really like those models from Samsung, Sandisk Sansa, iRiver..etc, but why ,oh why, refuse to put d**n stopwatch in it. I cannot belive its so dificult, or those companies keep ignoring market share of us, runners… Especially now Apple and Nike comming out with advanced pedometar and calory watch system. What can I say? Steve Jobs and Apple again getting more creativity and vision than their competition. Don’t get me wrong , I am not an Apple fan, but facts are facts. When Samsung bring product with my requirements I may consider purchasing, but until then … Apple is my choice

Val124 on May 25, 2006 6:13 AM

I have a Mac, and have used Mac products for years in my career (I’m a scientist), and so my natural choice of mp3 player would be an Ipod as I’ve already got all the software needed.I have been late coming into the portable mp3 player market – I relied for years on my beat-up old CD player, which worked great until a mishap at Heathrow airport….but I digress…My folks bought my the Sony player that came out around last Christmas. It was a nice surprise as I hadn’t asked for one – they also don’t know much about computers and such so I expect they just bought what was being so blatantly advertised around the holiday season.I opened the box, read the destructions, etc…..First, I couldn’t get the battery to charge properly. After several phonecalls to Sony, and several months of waiting for a new battery (it turned out the one I had was faulty). Then the software wouldn’t load correctly – I thought I had that sorted, and so started loading tracks onto the player. Each track seemed to take forever, and then the player hung after every one – had to keep rebooting it. After bizillions of reboots, reinstallation attempts, and the like, I got fed up. I was now stuck with an unreliable machine with a selection of music that included half-loaded copies, duplicates, and albums missing entire tracks. And I hadn’t even really listened to the thing yet!Then of course there was the kicker – I couldn’t use it with my Mac as it runs only on Windows XP. I managed to get ahold of Virtual Windows through work, only to find that the player doesn’t really get to grips with that very well either – it seems to get confused as to which operating system it’s connected to.I have sent the player back to Sony on my parents’ behalf. They have said they haven’t decided whether or not to refund their money, as the player itself apparently is not faulty (just the battery and the software – i.e. everything needed to make the hardware work).So, I will be buying an Ipod. For me personally, it will work better with the computer I already have, and I won’t have to deal with software that clearly wasn’t properly beta-tested before being released onto the market.For those who like this Sony product, congratulations, you got it to work and you are enjoying it. However, my impression is that ANY mp3 player has its pros and cons, and so choice should be a matter of convenience, compatibility, and features.For those who think Ipods (and everything Apple) suck, and for those who pan everything just because it’s not Apple, just remember that being a mindless sheep has nothing to do with what you buy – it has everything to do with the REASONS you buy it.Sincerely,Dr. Val

Marvin Zindler on May 25, 2006 3:20 PM

The only MP3 player that works with my computers (a powermac G5, and an intel core duo based imac is an ipod. The other mp3 player manufactures DO NOT SUPPORT Mac OS X based computers. Since I have to have a reliable computer, that does not require much maintenance, I have to use a MAC, because the other O.S. vendors (Microsoft, RedHat, Suse, etc) DO NOT MAKE RELIABLE systems. Yes, I pay a little more for mac’s and an ipod. I drive toyota’s and honda’s, and not Kia’s, for the same reason — I ALSO LIKE RELIABLE AUTOMOBILES. Do you live in the cheapest neighborhoods, buy the cheapest stuff you can find, buy all your clothes at Walmart, and drive KIA’s? Get real please. Ipod’s work, and they are the only players that work with Mac’s…

Nick82 on May 25, 2006 11:05 PM

Macs are so great, huh? Let me start by saying I’m not a Mac hater. I think they have some strengths, but, those don’t in my mind outweight compatibility issues. Congratulations for buying a system that isn’t compatible with the real world! 95% of computer software and hardware programs are built for PC. Get over it already. Why is it such a suprise for all the Mac-users out there that most mp3 players would be built for XP? Most computer games, software applications and virtually all hardware are built for PC computers (mainly XP) so what is the problem.So now, you guys are once again stuck buying an overexpensive Mac-made piece of equipment for your Mac system. Apple really has Mac-users backed into a corner, yet, most of them are too simple to realize this as they are too busy bragging about how great their Macs are and how everyone else is too stupid and/or cheap to buy one. Meanwhile they are stuck with lousy Apple 2nd rate software programs (because the mainstream ones that 95% of the world uses won’t work), overpriced Apple hardware and an mp3 player that has faults and shortcommings, despite being trendy.Keep in mind that iPod is not a stranger to battery problems. A classaction lawsuit was settled by Apple for owners of Generation I – III pods with batteries that were claimed to be bad. Apple didn’t admit to any wrong doing although I’d say their iMac attorneys must not have been overly confident of winning if they agreed to isettle. Mac users seem to thrive on Windows PC users having problems although they love to quietly sweep their problems under the rug as it would undermine their superiority complex. Pretty funny, huh.iPod users love to use price as a way to make themselves feel better about themselves. Their attitude is that every consumer who decides not to buy an iPod is poor. So many remarks such as iPods are a Merc and the others are a Toyota. What about the other mp3 players out there that cost more than an iPod? Is that like driving a Rolls compared to a Merc?http://www.appleipodsettlement.com/notice.html

Don’t Call Me Hater on May 26, 2006 12:52 AM

Please, what is there to like about the iPod?Oh! I know, everybody has one so you have to, the poor sound quality is awesome, scratched devices are “in”, (iPod “video”) only one video format, expensive accessories (as well as the device itself), I could go on, but these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.Even the guy that works at a local Best Buy who has to suffer from the torture of selling iPods says, “iPods suck. The Creative is so much better.”And $0.99 a song? Is that cheap?! I think not, when you can find subscription services as low as $8.00 a month, $0.99 is overpriced.What is there to like about the iPod? (besides the name)

Bob on May 26, 2006 11:24 AM

“What is there to like about the iPod? (besides the name)”Don’t Call Me Hater on May 26, 2006 12:52 AMWell…. the ability to play MP3, AAC, OGG, FLAC, ALAC and AIFF gaplessly (with Rockbox), a high quallity line out, ID3 tag database (for those of us who BUY our music), size, capacity (only one other major brand with 60gb player), price (outside of the US), availbility and range of accessories, high quality screen (not quite as good as the new creative though or most PMP’s), weight, linux and rockbox, calender, contacts, stopwatch, games, world clock etc.., the ability to get all of this (except the capacity) in a flash player too!Is that enough reasons?Seriously, all you people are SHEEP for jumping on the iPod bashing bandwagon about 3 years too late!!!!!Anybody who is seriously into audio can see that there is NO competition, the only real competitor was the iriver h120/40 series and that’s long dead now!Yeah, it’s not my fault all the dumb kids want them just ‘cos they look cool, I just brought the best player! (note. I didn’t say PERFECT, still want that removable battery, but seeing as the market is going towards hard-wired I doubt it’ll ever happen)And what the hell is this all about ‘poor’ sound quality, I for one would rarely rely on reviews but every audio magazine out there agrees the ipod is the best sounding MP3 player around, check this stereophile review (they sure know a hell of a lot more than PC mag reviewers etc. when it comes to AUDIO)http://www.stereophile.com/digitalsourcereviews/934/index.htmlAnd to the person who mentioned Mac reliabilty, my Ubuntu workstation is just as reliable. Fair enough having a pop at ‘ole microsoft but Redhat and Suse both make quality products too.One last thing, I HATE Apple, hence the fact I use rockbox on the player and would never install iTunes bloatware on my PC.

Mort Blort on May 26, 2006 11:54 AM

Why do people have such a visceral reaction to Apple? I’ve never understood that. Just evaluate the products in the marketplace and buy whatever you want.If the Apple product is acknowledged to be superior in aspects of industrial design and build quality, those things need not be marginalized as unimportant – as “style” or “marketing.” Those things may be open to interpretation, but if Stereophile says that the iPod does what any music player is designed to do better than others – make music, I’d say that Apple has carried through on their “brand promise,” which boils down to quality.If you’d rather have a bunch of fiddly buttons and other functions outside of playing music, well, buy something else. Understand, though, that adding those other functions costs money, and necessarily cheapens the quality of components that are dedicated to the core function, which is to make your music come out of the headphones.

Pyropasta on May 26, 2006 12:08 PM

I have an old Sony CD/MP3 Walkman that I got several years ago, and I love it. Yes, I can only hold about 700MB on a disc, but that’s still a lot of songs, even for higher quality, longer tracks. (Many of my songs are jazz and techno, which tend to be longer than average)Huge storage capacity doesn’t mean jack to me… I mean, how much music can a person listen to in a day? Bring a disc now, then bring another next time… There you go. You can organize it however you want.And the ultimate test of ease of use in my opinion is this: As long as I make the disk and know what’s in what folder, I can quickly access any song on the disc *without taking it out of my pocket*.

HappyMan on May 26, 2006 12:57 PM

Four Apple computers and one iPod – heaven!

adwiser on May 26, 2006 6:36 PM

nice try, guys :-) you deserved your paycheck!people think, so they choose iPod!quality, design and creativity always wins! 80+ % market share to iPod :-) good luck to your funny initiative! LOL

chad78 on May 26, 2006 9:58 PM

iPod = overpriced mp3 player with limited video and picture playback – no recording capabilities built in (even with 3rd party mic addons, record quality limited by Apple’s software)Other PMPs = MEDIA players – able to play virutally any media – built-in unhampered recording – other features- games, TV out, FM receiver, camera, TV recording, phones, PDA, web, bigger clearer screens, touchscreens, don’t need special format for videoOther mp3 players = much cheaper. 1/2 the price for the same storage.

Wile E. Coyote on May 26, 2006 11:23 PM

“I don’t know what they have to say / It makes no difference anyway / Whatever it is, I’m against it. / No matter what it is or who commenced it, I’m against it! / Your proposition may be good / But let’s have one thing understood: / Whatever it is, I’m against it. / And even when you’ve changed it or condensed it, I’m against it!”-Groucho MarxMany people here seem to dislike the iPod. Oddly enough, many devices/companies that were considered strong competitors to the iPod havent fared very well. Rio, Thompson Electronics, Olympus have pulled out of the market. Sony pulled the plug on the “Bean”, the Dell Ditty is dead in the water and most recently, iRiver has dried up. Now, I dont own an mp3 player… YET… but, considering whats’ goin’ on in the market nowadays, I’d go for the device that seems to have a better chance of being SUPPORTED in the future over some viceral, emotional bias or a bunch of features that I may not use. I mean, I’m not gonna watch TV while I bike or run, why do I need motion video support? That being said, consider these things:1. If your electronics buying decision is based mostly on what the “guy at Best Buy/Circuit City told you, you’re already in trouble.2. Beware of people who say things like “I Hate (add company here)!!” If you talk to them long enough you’ll find that they “Hate” a great many things for a variety of odd and often immature reasons. And if you actually hate an mp3 player… well, you should get out of your parents basement more often.3. Buy what works for you… just try to be sure that the company you buy it from will be around for a little while to help you should something go wrong.As for me, I’m probably going to go with an iPod. It’ll work with my laptop and with the built-in interface in the car I just bought. If it breaks (which is possible… with any player) I’ll buy another… I have enough disposable income to do that.But mostly, I’ll buy an iPod…. ’cause you’re against it.

siroh on May 27, 2006 12:22 AM

Hey guys,I’m looking to buy my first music player and I’m curious because I can’t seem to find exactly what I want to know most anywhere. I’m looking for a list of players so I can decide if they meet all my needs. The major barrier is that most players I read about don’t work on my mac. I know I can get an ipod. What else will work with my computer?Thanks. I’ll check this page later

tom on May 27, 2006 3:08 AM

I hate all 3 dead Ipods i Have.

WhyshudItellu? on May 27, 2006 7:32 AM

What the hell is up with this site? Why does everyone want a byte out of Apple? Well, as the saying goes, people only throw stones at fruit-bearing trees….T he creators of this site are obviously retarded, don’t they have anything better to do with their time than to slate the worlds best mp3 player?????????? And I have to stop myself from typing now, before I say something like you F*****G A$$HOLES!!!!!!

Strager on May 28, 2006 2:08 PM

Ipods are the best. You guys are weird.

accents on May 28, 2006 5:21 PM

What’s that word? Oh yea – jealously. You guys got used to the idea of Microsoft owning the world – with Windows blindfolding everyone – that the idea of a company like Apple is ludicrous to you guys. You want to think different by not buying an iPod, but you’ll have to plug those “different” mp3 players to Windows machines. Good luck being different.

macuser25 on May 28, 2006 9:34 PM

I think that this website does have its uses.I do own an ipod and i have to say that I love it. Have had it for a couple of years with no problems and am not really looking for another one. Although I am a mac user and (i guess a bit of an apple fanboy), I do believe in competition – it drives companies to improve their products and reduces prices.Owning an ipod is more than just using an mp3 player. Its having access to over 1000 attachments, cases and whatever for an ipod. From hooking one up to your beamer to linking it to you sneakers or integrating it with your wireless network (on a mac) . When the other companies realise that people want to do more than just hook an mp3 onto their belt, perhaps they will catch up.Meanwhile, this site offers interesting reviews on the other mp3 players, but does itself a disservice by not including the ipod line to make a comparison. If you are going for an ipod or not, good luck. Enjoy your music because thats the real reason for you getting an mp3 right?

jus on May 28, 2006 10:22 PM

I haven’t actually read anything on here except for a few comments. I’m not here to bash or criticize another man’s choices, but in agreement with macuser25, I think that it is funny how you are giving out reviews while leaving out the main player in the game. Sure you want to recommend the good from the bad and have plenty of room for choice so that people can make a well informed “INDEPENDENT” decision and allow them the opportunity to THINK FOR THEMSELVES. But what this actually says to me is that there are some people out there who want an iPod and they just can’t afford it. And that’s ok, there is no reason to be bitter. Really.But let us think about it for a moment. There are plenty of sites all over the internet doing what you’ve asked the commentor’s not to do on this site, bash the iPod. And why? Because it is the best selling? And let’s talk about why it IS the best selling. Why would anyone in their right mind pay $399.99 for a 20gig iPod plus $60 for AppleCare when they could go out and buy any old MP3 player for under $150. Maybe for the same reason why the people you want to THINK FOR THEMSELVES buy PC’s for under $500 and Chevy’s over the Mini Coop. Their more affordable. But those of us, SHEEP, we all follow in a herd down to our local Apple Farmer’s Market and buy the all too expensive iPods, PowerBooks, G5s, and so ons because we just don’t know any better. We haven’t been informed and we are made of SO much money that who cares, really.Hmmm. I’ve had my iPod for over 2 years, no problems at all. My Powerbook will last me another 5, no doubt, my g5 the same. So why did I go and spend all that money. For the same reason someone would purchase a Mercedes over a Chevy, Lincoln or Mazda… quality. Someone who makes a well informed purchase is satisfied for the lifetime of their purchase. My hand wasn’t held when I walked into the store and bought my very first iPod, then G5, then PowerBook. No one led the way. There wasn’t a herd of us grazing prior to walking inside and making our “uninformed” purchase. Instead of trying to make people think like you do, you should take some of your own advice.

eugen on May 29, 2006 1:14 AM

Right, about the name of the website… its cheap mate, just wonder is ipod so good? The ipod it is more expensive, when speaking about mp3-players, for the same reason the Mac computers are more expensive than ms-dos compatible when speaking about computers. I got my ipod since December, video 30gb, and bought 1 month ago to my mate an Zen micro 8gb, does not matter the price because you can buy bouth 50 quid cheaper on the web or somewhere else, have tested 3rd party headphones on both, and .. ipod makes the difference, and that’s the only comparison I thought abut it and tell you about it is the world where you get what you paid for, so people have the liberty, everything has pros and cons and that is including ipod respective Mac computers. Just to let you know, I will stick with my ipod and when I will have the money I will buy a Mac too ;)

iLove on May 29, 2006 6:30 PM

It’s fascinating to get some education about other mp3 players. I’m a huge mac-ie and have an iMac G5 and an old ass ipod. The design is definitely what appeals to me about macs. I know my ipod may be limited technologically, but if I’m holding it, or wearing it at the gym, it doesn’t look like a piece of technology, but a well-designed accessory. Even though it isn’t the best, it works seemlessly with my iMac, which is far superior to any PC I’ve encountered. It’s exciting to see people getting sucked into something based on its design, especially design this good. As a designer, that appeals to me. Hey if it’s conformity, at least it’s asthetically pleasing.

Pitchy on May 30, 2006 8:59 AM

One thing to note, if consumers aren’t informed of other choices, is that Apple’s fault? Or is it Creative’s fault for failing to understand how to market a product?I recently went with an 60gb iPod video after my Rio Karma battery life dwindled to 30 mins. I started off back around 98/99 with a 32mb Rio, then to the Rio Riot, to the Rio Volt that ended up with a massive screen defect that they wouldn’t replace… and when they wanted $185 to replace the battery in my Karma because it was out of warranty, I decided that due to lack of accessories and any 3rd party stuff, if it was time for a change.Right now I have about 20 TV shows, 4 movies and 2700 songs, and out of those, I’ve bought 1 episode of Lost, and 2 CDs from iTunes. I pretty much refuse to use iTunes unless it’s something I can’t find anywhere else. I have no issues with taking MP3s and putting them on my iPod. The one thing I really admired on my Karma was FLAC and Ogg support, so I’ve had to convert some stuff to mp3 or mp4. You aren’t forced into soley using iTunes and to be honest, if I could transfer songs without iTunes, I would never install it on my PC. Most music services let you burn your songs back to CD and then you can rip them to any format you prefer, and if you chose MP3, you can easily put those songs on every player on the market reguardless of the service.I looked at iRiver and Creative and just didn’t like the players as much as the iPod.

dv on May 30, 2006 1:37 PM

I wonder how much Creative’s actual sales have dropped since the iPod, as the market now is exponentially bigger.

Sam on June 1, 2006 12:22 PM

Yes, I think that it is horrible that some people can’t think for themselves. But, this is not a new phenomenon… Apple’s IPod did not cause this. I think all of the backlash against the IPods is WRONG. Stop worrying about what MP3 player people prefer and start worrying about bigger issues, children.

BlindMelonSucks on June 2, 2006 4:44 AM

What’s worse than an overpriced iPod? An overpriced iPod with overpriced mp3′s of no-talent, scratchy, whiny 90′s era Alternative “music.” OK, any era of RAP is also painful. Thank god teens grew up and 90′s music lost its customer base!

callmegod on June 2, 2006 12:46 PM

Life is simple. Look.U dont like ipods??? Dont buy em.U like ipods??? Buy one.Simple.U really need a fm tuner?? Dont buy an ipod.R u happy with 2000+ songs, including songs ull never listen to on the radio?? Buy an ipod.And what sumone said sum time ago its true. Do u always go for the cheapest things??? D@mn, u really that poor???Why do u think, i buy stuff like, swedish furniture!!!!! Cuz the design is amazing!!!!!!!! Ouh but hold on??? Are u gonna start b!tching at me cuz i bought a $8000 aluminum and leather couch, just cuz i love minimalist style and it looks amazin??? get a life….or get a job, get a sense of style, get money, and follow my steps.Ou but ur dumb, and u cant do what i do.or hold?? How about this, are u gonna start a website, named http://www.Anythingbutrolex.com and u gon start b!tch!n at me cuz of my $9000 watch which only tells me what time it is????See its a good comparison:Acording to you:Ipod is overpriced.Ipod is overated.Ipod does just one thing. (Play music)But ipod looks way beyond just great.So u tell everybody about options like drag and drop, other file support. Usb conection. Fm tuner. Voice recording…..But we really dont need that.There are many other mp3-players that do more, and cost less.Same thing with the rolex.Rolex is overpriced.Rolex is overated.Most rolex do only one thing. (Tell u the time)But rolex look way beyond just greatSo if u start http://www.anythingbutrolex.com u can tell us about casios, and other cheap, watches, that cost less. and have 3000 plus features, that ill probably never use.So go ahead. Build your own, http://www.anythingbutsumthingicantafford.comand b!tch at it.

ScottGuy on June 3, 2006 10:56 PM

“But mostly, I’ll buy an iPod…. ’cause you’re against it.”That’s a mature reason to buy a product. Maybe YOU should get out of YOUR parent’s basement more often.And, to CallmeGod….U really need a fm tuner?? Dont buy an ipod.R u happy with 2000+ songs, including songs ull never listen to on the radio?? Buy an ipod.-How bout I buy a competitors player that does both, for about the same price? Sounds like a plan to me!Are you really that insecure that you need to spout off that you buy Sweedish furnature? Or are you just plain obnoxious? Maybe it’s a combination of both but here is the fact. There are players that cost just as much or slightly more than iPods that DO MORE.Some of you guys are just plain puppets. You buy a product because society says it’s popular. You compare it to buying an expensive car or furnature or a pricy watch, but in reality, it’s just as stupid mp3 player. I can afford a frekin’ iPOD. I spent just as much on a non-iPOD. Get over that people who CAN afford iPODs simply don’t want them and would rather give the same amount of money you gave to Apple to someone else that makes a player that GIVES you more. It’s not about price, it’s about value. Get over yourselves and grow a brain.

kylemusicman on June 3, 2006 11:05 PM

Isn’t it amazing that someone who has $8000 to spend on Sweedish furnature doesn’t even have the ability to write a complete sentence, use proper punctuation or correct grammar?What a pathetic waste of space. Life isn’t simple, but, you sure are. Instead of spending money on mp3 players, you should invest in a hooked on phonics program.

BOBCAT on June 4, 2006 4:51 PM

look, it’s all very simple! when i used to think of MAC products, i thought of pretty designs and colours, they’ve always had the look, i’ll give them that (back in the day). But ever since i started my graphics design course at university, i was shocked at how bias everyone was when it came to MAC products, they shunned anyone who had the balls to admit that they had a PC. For the past two yrs i’ve had to watch these boring annoying trendies walking about with their tiny little notebooks & IPODS, shoving them into everyone’s face and polishing them when no one’s looking, probably even substituting girlfriends & boyfriends with them! HA what sad-O’s man. But the thing that really gets on my tits is that they boast that MAC is the best for anything…music, computers, that they never crash, rarely break down blah blah etc. BULLSHIT! they are like anything else. i got a dell PC workstation specifically for running heavy duty graphic programs which by the way is the designer & archetects prefered choice, its covered for 5 years and at least i know where to go if i have any problems! it seems some of my apple using friends find they are alone when they run into computer troubles, BUT who cares, it still looks pretty right?!!. PC’s windows may not be perfect, but at least it doesn;t have a boring backwards layout (i have used both computer’s but i choose PC windows.) So i was feeling a little sorry for mac because PC have been crushing their sales for years, and then they introduced the IPOD, which for them has been a great investment. its kind of wierd that everyone went crazy for them, after all their bland colours & lack of pattern were hardly exciting. i just happily baught a 30 gig smooth black philips mp3 player with blue neon lights and im very happy indeed. mac rinsed the whole mp3 player concept by releasing an IPOD everytime they made a minor change in size, colour, or a tiny function like shuffler and video capability, aw how nice, they couldn’t have been nice and put it together in just one-two ipods, by the time you’ve baught the whole collection, you sorta wonder, was my stupid need to update taken advantage of, why yes! so there we have it, i dont feel sorry for mac anymore as they have made alot of money from selling pretty products that are nothing special, but people still flaunt them like celebs flaunt kabbala bracelets. if you’re going to make a fashion statement, at least try and be original.

CallmeGod on June 4, 2006 7:53 PM

yall amuse me. hehehe seriously.to scottguy:”There are players that cost just as much or slightly more than iPods that DO MORE.”what for????? tell me. what for????”You buy a product because society says it’s popular.”dude, i live in Mexico. 80% of the ppl here, dont even know what an Ipod is. Think i bought it to be popular??? Dude, i dont even want ppl to see me using it on the street cuz im afraid they gon try to steal it from me.But… i must give u sum credit. u said “it’s just as stupid mp3 player”. thats true mate.and thats why yall amuse me. cuz yall fight over a lil plastic thing as if sumone had insulted ur mom or gf or wife.you guys are funny.

harbour12 on June 6, 2006 10:06 AM

All the “i hate this site” people should stop visiting it, much like the people who created this site have decided not to purchase iPods. The purpose of this site is clear – “we all know what an iPod can do; what else is out there”. Perhaps the site name is a little provocative to Mac/iPod fans, but it got me here.As far as I can tell from my girlfriend’s 2 iPods, iPod is great if you want a small-ish, somewhat reliable, simple music player. Personally I find the iPod short on many standard features of most other music players (e.g. shuffle-play one album or one playlist), and if you’ve got a large music collection it’s really difficult to find particular songs.For me, I prefer a few more features and the ability to personalise my player. The Archos AV500 is hard to beat for three reasons – first, there’s drag and drop. Some of the iSheep that have commented here have asked why you’d want it. The more appropriate question is “Why shouldn’t I have it?” Drag and drop is simple, it means I don’t have to return to my computer to put new music or movies on, and clearly the only reason Apple have specifically taken drag and drop out of the iPod is to get users tied to iTunes. The whole point of saving media files digitally is to enable them to be easily copied, moved, stored etc without being tied to one form of media player (hardware and software). Forcing people to use particular software to transfer files which then only work on one piece of hardware is unnecessarily complicated and restrictive in a digital world.Secondly, you can organise and browse music by folder, which allows for more sophisticated groupings than just playlist, genre, title, album, artist (which you can also search by if you want). This will be more useful for some people than others, but it saves a lot of search time for me.The last and major reason is the ability to play video (in many more formats than the iPod video allows – hence anything I can watch on my TV or computer I can watch on my Archos). On a bus, train or plane TV or movies are about 10 times more interesting than music – how often do you listen to the radio channels on a plane? And what makes the AV500 the cream of the crop is the simple recording off TV, DVD, satellite and cable TV – I can go home each night and plug my AV500 into the dock that sits permanently in my TV set-up, record a couple of TV programmes at night with the timer that even changes the TV channel for me when I set it to record after I’ve gone to bed, and then watch a couple of TV programmes on my way to work. On a screen big enough to read subtitles if need be – hard to beat really.

Wesley on June 6, 2006 11:01 AM

“(e.g. shuffle-play one album or one playlist)”The iPod can do this. I don’t usually use shuffle mode, but I tried it just now and it works. Shuffle everything, shuffle an album, or shuffle a playlist.I can see where people like drag-n-drop, but for me, filesystem organization is a pain in the ass and I much prefer the way iTunes does it.

chris on June 6, 2006 8:26 PM

I use the tube in London to get to and from work every day, and I am getting increasingly terrified of the ever increasing throngs of people with white earphones on there. It feels like a scene from ‘Invasion of the Body Snatchers’. And it makes me think about my history with Apple. I grew up in the golden era of Mac evangelism, before Windows really took off. I went from a Mac Classic to an LC to a IIvx to a G3–only to discover, when they time came for me to study & work in professional 3D graphics that nobody in my field used Macs because their memory management (prior to OSX) was so laughable (on that note I will agree wholeheartedly with Bobcat). I switched to an NT machine and never, ever looked back. Through the years I have come to realize in a personal and professional sense that Apple relies heavily on superficial ‘lifestyle’ design to sell products which have little or no practical advantage over their competition. Apple is no more ‘ethical’ or ‘alternative’ a company than Microsoft. They didn’t invent friendly GUI’s (they nicked the ‘windows’ metaphor from Xerox PARC, same as Microsoft did). They’re just riding on an undeserved ‘hippy’ reputation from the eighties. And in all the years I used Macs I never got any decent customer service. So for all those things–and to stop feeling like I’m in Land of the Dead when I walk into the tube–I’m happy this site exists, and keep up the good work.

CanWeTalkHere? on June 6, 2006 8:29 PM

The bottom line is that the iPod is enjoying a time of being the king of the hill, and that is creating a boon for Apple’s entire line of products. Apple’s image has gone up considerably because of the iPod. At the end of the day this is nothing to get mad about, go to war over, or gloat conspicuously about. At the end of the day, Apple has successfully created demand for a good enough product, just like Microsoft and others have done in other times. It’s Apple’s time. Maybe it will last a long time. Maybe it will dry up soon.But really, saying things like quality, design, and creativity always wins? Please. And saying that everyone else is just jealous because you took 80% of this market? Then what about the markets where you’re not winning? Does that mean you’re jealous or that their products are better? No.Any way you slice it, if you’re an Apple fan, enjoy it. Enjoy the heck out of it. Why would you waste your time out here defending it when you could be out there jamming like all those happy silhouettes? It’s like demanding that someone fall in love with your family photos. And besides that, saying “I told you so” is overrated and short-lived.If you’re not an Apple fan, don’t sweat it. Nobody is going to make you say “I was wrong” and buy an iPod…or any Apple product for that matter. Heck, when you think about it (I know this is extreme) you don’t really even need an MP3 player.

Yep, you on June 7, 2006 3:38 PM

Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics.Even if you win, you’re still retarded.

Knows Better on June 7, 2006 6:55 PM

I’ve had an Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 since 2002. I also have a Creative Labs Zen Micro. I have never considered owning an iPod. Personally, I can’t stand them. My Dad has 2 and I’ve fixed both at least twice. Lucky for him I’m a computer tech because Apple’s “support” will make your head explode.In spite of iPod’s user-hostile functionality, annoying interface and fragile construction, it sells because great marketing created a mass hallucination.Maybe the Karma Fairy has seen enough…http://us.creative.com/corporate/pressroom/releases/welcome.asp?pid=12405I lost all respect for Bono. What a whore.

Uh huh on June 8, 2006 3:18 PM

“In spite of iPod’s user-hostile functionality, annoying interface and fragile construction, it sells because great marketing created a mass hallucination.”Or it sells because it’s actually good.

just the facts on June 8, 2006 5:36 PM

wma sucks…aac sucks…mp3 sucks…itunes sucks…the senny’s supplied with the ipod… sucksneeding proprietary software and a non-standard connector to connect YOUR mp3player, to upload/download YOUR music that YOU paid decent money for… sucksh140, rockbox, flac…. you can actually hear music, instead of just distortion.

Jesse Ross on June 8, 2006 9:09 PM

Hi,I bought a 4G iPod back in December 2004, and not once has it broken down, corrupted, or done anything which people are saying that they do.Neither does the music distort, or the battery run out every few hours. I often have my iPod going from 7am to 5pm, and yes, the battery does run down, but you know what? I just plug it back into my iMac, AND IT RECHARGES! Just like magic!Oh, and the connector? Yeah, it’s a non-standard connector at one end – but it’s still a USB plug at the other. How is that difficult to cope with? It comes with the iPod, so it’s not like you’re suddenly inconvenienced with having to go buy a whole new cable.And some people say that it’s ‘stupid’ that the iTunes software doesn’t work with older computers. Have you ever heard of this concept called ‘technological advance’? Computer hardware/software companies cannot continue to support old operating systems and ancient hardware, because it’s just not at all cost-efficient. Why support systems that few people use anymore? It’s like demanding that your new copy of WoW should run in DOS. Anyway, if you bought a product without checking that it’s compatible with your system, that’s entirely your fault.I did not buy my iPod because everyone was buying iPods. I didn’t know a single person who had an iPod at that time. All I knew was that Apple happen to make great products that combine style with functionality, and are guaranteed to work.I also much prefer iTunes to Windows Media Player, because my experience of WMP is slow CD ripping speeds, poor track info editing functions, and sheer ugliness. iTunes is quick, simple, and suits my needs perfectly.There’s also the argument that everything else allows video playback and FM tuning and recording and so on and so on… Again, it’s all down to personal preference. I do not need video playback – I don’t have videos that I want to watch on a small screen, and anyway – I use my iPod to listen to music while doing other things, like studying, reading, or wandering around town. FM radio is WHY I have an iPod. Yeah, I listen to Triple J, but I want to be able to listen to WHAT I want, WHEN I want. Not what someone else wants me to listen to. And I don’t have anything to record, anyway. If I have music that I want on the iPod, well, it’s going to be on a CD, so I put it into iTunes, and from there, it’s on the iPod. Easy done.And another thing – I’ve had an iPod nano since February, and the screenhas not scratched or cracked. Even after dropping it on the ground a few times. That’s because I bought a case for it. Generally, things get broken because people don’t look after them. If you just throw your MP3 player (which you would have paid a few hundred dollars for) around like it’s indestructible, you’re eventually going to get a nasty surprise.From what I’ve read on this site, it seems to me that alongside the hype surrounding the iPod’s positives, there’s also a lot of hype over its negatives, which are often blown out of proportion. Do people actually believe that everyone’s decisions are completely influenced by advertising and the media, and that they have no ability to think for themselves? And do they think that everyone with iPods are happily wandering around listening to distorted music? I know that if I had something distorting in my ears, I’d get it out. I would NOT be listening to my iPod if it was doing that. It’s more likely to be the music you’re listening to, than the hardware you’re using.Personal choice and need is the overriding factor, here. If the iPod suits your needs, so be it. If not, yeah, there’s other choices. That’s the whole point of market competition.

callmegod on June 9, 2006 4:40 PM

jesse ur soooo right. i mean it.and btw, YEP, that what u said was freakin awesome.

lawlz on June 10, 2006 5:33 AM

these ipod owners are pissT

TheJocker on June 12, 2006 2:28 AM

I’ve owned an iPod since the first one 5Gb was released…It’s a question of choice that’s all… No reason to blame if people are buying them if they find it “cool” or whatever… Apple found a product to sell and found how to sell it…It’s exactly the same with Micto$oft: lots of people are insulting them, blaming their products but still buy (or copy) them…Who to blame ? Microsoft ? No: people who buy…From someone who spent his lifetime finding other solutions that Kro$oft “$olution$”…

jackjeff on June 12, 2006 3:07 AM

Is there a way to buy anything but an iPod without giving money to Microsoft? for their fucking DRM technology?I mind less giving money to apple.

bitperfect101 on June 12, 2006 4:36 AM

i have an ipod mini(prolly the worst sounding out of all gens). I use apple lossless mainly. Using a line out dock, cmoy headphone amp,a quality interconnect and this setup owns.Im sorry but blaming a decent source for crappy performance? Im sorry but the first thing you do with is throw them 99 cent white earbuds out the window. I know its kinda hard to get if your on a budget but shure e2c or even koss-75 will really make them sound good. In fact, take any cheap earbud that comes stock and please throw them away. But then again i have 750 dollar audio technica headphones.want a real website with pros and cons of all MP3 players?www.head-fi.com

Dr Boberticus Jackalaka on June 12, 2006 6:35 PM

You make us all sound like we have no sense in class or style, when really, the iPod is the way to go. It is simply more attractive and easier to use than other MP3 players. Think about it. What would you rather do; scroll through your library using a circle or having to press buttons over and over again? It’s a no-brainer! Obviously Apple has thought about what people want and why they want it. Apple is intelligent and they look into things they produce. Why does Creative keep on suing them? Why does SanDisk make hate-sites towards the iPod? BECAUSE YOU CAN’T BEAT IT!

Andrew on June 13, 2006 9:30 AM

Hey guys,If you do an about turn on this and reflect on the dominent iPod = Windows, and the other players = Apple computers??? MS Windows dominates the world with 90% market share, and poor old Apple trying hard to convince everybody that Mac is better. Now the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly Apple is bad and oh those poor old companies trying to compete. Get over it. Economics are simply, advertise…people buy your device…they like it….they tell their friends, magazines and ezines review it – gets excellent reviews….more get sold….keeps getting better….software interop works really well…getting to critical mass…etc. Between 2001 and 2003 the iPod did not really grow all that fast and was much like everybody else. Difference is Apple marketed it really well, continued to innovate and release better players, sold them in non-computer shops, added downloadable music (BTW, most people who own iPods don’t buy electronic music). ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES including Creative had the same opportunities – EXACTLY the same. MS is dominent in the OS market because so many people rely on them so much that changing that is VERY difficult. Apple have to innovate on their computers, operating software and productivity software to progress – that is the only way. It has taken Apple 8 years to get this far with the Mac product and the peripheral products like iPod. They have worked VERY hard and they deserve success – they earned it. If MS and vomit (I mean URGE) provide a better service, and creative provide a better player and combined experience, and they market it well, there is no reason why the others can not overcome Apple’s dominant market share – question is – will they or can they out innovate Apple?

Almoxil on June 13, 2006 5:23 PM

Hi, people.Nice site and helpful information.First, not grading the players (10.0, 9.5, 7.0 and so on), but giving the pros and cons instead so the reader can make his decision on what is more valuable to him/her.Second, showing how to disassemble the players: the guides are very clear and can help a lot if you have to do some small maintenance in the player yourself. It would be nice to have more guides available, but this is other problem, I know.I mean, I live in Brazil, I don’t have any maintenance service available here, and I think throwing almost a hundred dollars away in shipping and returning rates just to sit, wait two or three months and get the player back with the same problem (sometimes that’s just what happens) is just plain stupid.My Zen Micro had the so-called “headphone jack problem”, and I found the instructions on how to fix the problem in the Internet. This saved me a lot of hassle, and my player is now working just fine.—The “love iPods or hate them thing”: come on, people… you will find people who take informed decisions and others that just follow the crowd anywhere.Really, the fact that Apple sells more than the other companies is just a matter of having enough money to distribute the product and marketing it all around the world. Only a few companies in the world have resources to accomplish that (Apple, Microsoft, Sony and Nike are some examples). It has nothing to do with having or not a high degree of quality (every product in the same category has its advantages and shortcomings in terms of quality) or being easy to use (come on people! I think there’s no dumb here).This discussion is just pointless: I have a friend that has an iPod, while I have a Zen Micro. If you ask me why I bought a Zen Micro, I’ll say: “because I can exchange the battery when it wears out without sending the player to the US, because of the features, especially the ‘album of the day’ feature, and because I don’t like the design of the iPods”. If you ask him why he bought an iPod, he’ll say: “because everybody I know have one, I can buy it easily anywhere and it has lots of accessories I’ll never use but they’re still cool…” (just kidding — :-p)But you know, I’m very glad with my choice, and he’s very glad with his, and that’s what counts in the end of the day.—Again, congratulations for the site.

atariforlife on June 13, 2006 8:33 PM

i would have an ipod this very moment… if they didnt look so damn queer. as for methods of selling, you cant hate any one mega-monster corp more than the other, theyre all the same.

disturbed on June 14, 2006 2:49 AM

if they didnt look so damn queer ?i cant decide whether your going to be a wife-beater when your older or a closet gay.

teenage millionaire – French on June 14, 2006 8:56 AM

your site smell shit…sorry but if people want to buy ipod, i think it’s a good job.Apple manage to sucess, and everybody love it.Why buy a dell, samsung etc… ? do you believe that if you buy something else, you will be original ?blablablaYou are jealous about their success, you want that people buy your proper cheat and then ?Don’t be stupid, people can see what i see in front of my screen.

yes on June 14, 2006 5:15 PM

I agree with him…In my opinion, apple manage to do what every firm wanted to do, a big part of the market.

el lopez on June 14, 2006 6:29 PM

Great site!!!!!! Convinced me, getting a Creative.

DH on June 15, 2006 3:37 AM

Well done on your site. Very brave. Apple has always indulged in rather infantile negative advertising against PCs. However, as soon as anything remotely negative is said against anything with the Apple logo.. well you’d have less grief with a joke about the phophet

David on June 15, 2006 4:51 AM

I worked in a hi-fi store for four years, selling mp3 players. The ipod is the worst player on the market. Sure, they have a great interface, and they look cute as hell, but the battery life sucks, they have the lowest number of features (any good player will have a radio, a line-in, a mic, less copyright protection stuff, easily replaceable battery, carry case included, non-scratchable covering etc), and have the worst quality sound of any of the major brand players. At least, until the earphones break, which won’t be very long. And then try claiming the warranty. Or better yet, come and yell at the guy who works at the store who advised you not to buy it in the first place. I once had seven faulty ones back in two hours.I love my mac. I willl never ever buy an ipod.

donald trump on June 15, 2006 7:56 AM

Everyone’s free to have their own opinion, so for that, bravo, but seriously, what a hilarious site. Very funny. Don’t like it, don’t buy it. Mine? I love every one I’ve owned, starting with the original 5gb. Good luck to your endeavor – it’s extremely entertaining; i only wish I could download it.

lindsay on June 15, 2006 2:50 PM

What’s really crazy is that this site is obviously run by SanDisk trying to sell their Sansa e200. (Check out the prominent links to this site from idont.com, sandisk’s anti-ipod site).Pretty clever guerilla marketing campaign, but a marketing campaign nonetheless.

CACAMERD on June 16, 2006 12:45 AM

PC’s>Apple everytime Other MP3′s>Ipod(bad unreliable bS from Steve Jobs)

LlamaMan on June 16, 2006 8:22 AM

Come on, no need to get so offened IPOD users..The point about all this is the notion of agresive corperate branding and how this is presenting to us a pre-packaged, sanitised culture we are all expected to subscribe to..The issue here is not the IPOD itself (it might be the best player in world for all i know). But the corperate domination of our culture. This is a bad thing, and we as free-spirited people should make a point of not subscribing to every damn thing the Big Boys offer to us in order to line there over sized pockets.There are to many people in this world who are suffering needlessly while the fat-cats get fatter… If we were all on equal standing then it would be different, but we are not.. and there are more important things to expend energy on than lining pockets with the cash the people who so desparately want to fit in with the status quo.

waas on June 16, 2006 10:43 AM

iPod City: Apple criticized for factory conditions6/12/2006 7:09:57 PM, by Tanya KlowdenIf you are fortunate enough to live in the UK, you may have seen an interesting piece in the Mail on Sunday this past weekend. The Mail sent some reporters to Longhua, China (twenty minutes from Hong Kong) and Suzhou, which borders Shanghai to visit two factories which bring forth the iPods, Nanos, and Shuffles that are “designed in California” and tremendously popular around the world. There they found conditions that to our Western ears sound positively Dickensian.”We have to work too hard and I am always tired. It’s like being in the army. They make us stand still for hours. If we move, we are punished by being made to stand still for longer…We have to work overtime if we are told to and can only go back to the dormitories when our boss gives us permission…If they ask for overtime we must do it. After working 15 hours until 11:30pm, we feel so tired.”More on:http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060612-7039.html

oh jesus on June 16, 2006 12:01 PM

There we go with the whole sensationalist article about the Chinese factories. If you look into it at all, you’d figure out pretty quick that it’s not as bad as the articles make it out to be, and in some locations of China, it’s a *good job.* China’s economy is behind ours in the US. You can’t expect them to get to where we are without going through the things that we did years ago. This whole “slave labor” idea isn’t slave labor at all (the people who *chose* those jobs chose them because IT’S BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE), and if those jobs get taken away because of Western sensationalist BS, that’s only going to hurt the people who had those jobs because then they’d be out of work, and it only sets the Chinese economy *back.* The way towards human rights and a good Chinese economy is by working through the problems they have now, not by 3rd party influence forcing them out of it and ruining their country. And don’t think that most of the other people in the MP3 market aren’t using Chinese labor. I guarantee Creative among all the others is as well.Now to your regularly scheduled topic.

oliver haddo on June 16, 2006 2:37 PM

i had an Ipod, then i realized when the battery dies out for good, all the time i took to upload everything is lost. gone. nada. and Itunes took over my computer. i now hate Ipod.i love my creative zen though, because i can use window’s media player or some other program, i can upload my songs or someone elses, and when the battery dies, i can replace it myself and not lose anything.there is no reason to own an Ipod, other than to say you own an Ipod.

Captain Marvel on June 17, 2006 2:13 AM

Overall I think this websites intentions are good, except for one quote that I read in one of the opening paragraphs: “You choose what fits your lifestyle, not a mass-branded lifestyle given to you by someone else.”I don’t believe that the ipod is a lifestyle. It’s your choice of music that makes you different and shapes your lifestyle, not your choice of mp3 player. Maybe I’m wrong, but I bought an ipod just because its easy to use, the interface and design was nice and also it allowed me to put a hell of a lot more songs on it than i could on my previous mp3 players. I didn’t buy an ipod because I was following a trend, or anything like that, and I think most people think the same way too.

Guardian452 on June 17, 2006 11:56 PM

The iPod is not an MP3 Player, repeat, The iPod is not an MP3 Player, repeat, The iPod is not an MP3 Player,repeat, The iPod is not an MP3 Player, however the iPod would not be a bad player without the DRM

doug20 on June 18, 2006 6:09 AM

why is the ipod such an issue? does it really matter how people choose to store their music? also, surely the only reason the ipod is so popular is because it may well be one of the best music players available.”I don’t believe that the ipod is a lifestyle. It’s your choice of music that makes you different and shapes your lifestyle, not your choice of mp3 player. Maybe I’m wrong, but I bought an ipod just because its easy to use, the interface and design was nice and also it allowed me to put a hell of a lot more songs on it than i could on my previous mp3 players. I didn’t buy an ipod because I was following a trend, or anything like that, and I think most people think the same way too”- Captain Marvelright on. this is my attitude too. why not attack today’s awful taste in music rather than how they choose to store it? the music on the damn mp3 players is way more important than the player itself. im off to start http://www.anythingbutfalloutboy.comi know you must have put a lot of effort into making and running this site, but GET OVER IT. nobody cares.

Robz on June 19, 2006 1:31 PM

i hate iPod. and i hate those who does not realise that an iPod is also an MP3 player [believe it or not =O ] i hear anouncements being made like, ” Please turn off your mobile phones, mp3 players and iPods, etc…” – mp3 players “AND” iPods! catagorizing them as 2 seperate devices!? this is some disgraceful brainwash for people that probably didnt even know how to work their own VCR player when they owned one [and there's a lot of people that dont!]

Andrea on June 19, 2006 3:31 PM

I appreciate websites that challenge the latest ‘trends’ and eneducated topics. Especially for Ipods. Of course, I have many friends who have their Ipod mini, or nano, or whatever. And many times, they are talking about the top 100 thing in Itunes, or something related to their ipod. Sometimes they have complained about the defects, when only days prior, they were ranting how Ipods are the best form to carry your songs.I merely pity how incredibly ignorant they are to just regular MP3 players.I however think that the ipod has been blown so out of proportion, that people have begun to think that if they are going to have and mp3 player, it must be the most popular brand- the ipod.I choose not to follow this trend of ignorance; and hope that this site will educate others on this topic.

bob on June 19, 2006 3:58 PM

Am now on my 4th Archos. got a fist gen 6 gig one with blue bumpers, about the same time as the very first ipod came out.The next 20 gig archos video melted itself down due to a short circuit.The next 60 gig AV500 stopped ccharging (it seemed like a nokia charger would fit… :-) ) I got it for 300 quid from dixons high street store, when they’d accidentally marked it down to 300 quid from 450 – it went back up the next week.My new av500 (warranty) has now overheated and won’t turn on.Thank god for extended warranties!However the nano was plagued with quality issues when it came out.Do your home-work, try out some models, buy based on feature / benefit / value as well as fulfilling requirement and emotion / how something makes you feel.Above all, be happy with what you have and you will always be happy.

Jasso on June 19, 2006 4:32 PM

well, apples been succesful cuz they have studied the way american ppl think (sorry guys, i meant to say MOST american ppl think) and realized that american culture is based on consumism and consumism tells ppl that “they will be what they have”. Truly think about it. Media tells u that to be happy, uve gotta have things like a huge house, nice cars, big screen tvs, bling bling, stay at great hotels, buy möet or crystal and stuff like that. Just think about the shows on tv. Things like “its good to be…” “faboulous life of…” “cribs” “unique motorsports…” even “pimp my ride” is about having not being. All the makeover stuff has the same idea, becoming sumthing u aint, but that is thot to be popular.Guys, thats the way american society thinks.I live in a, call it, preppy, richie rich situation. Im 19, my mom is a M.D. M.P.H. Ph.D. and my dad is lung & traquea surgeon. Ive attended private schools all my life. Had almost nething ive ever wanted. Im not showing off. i just want to tell u that ive met ppl who have a beemer, an escalade and a benz, 5 60 inch plasmas screens in their house, 2 jacuzzis. and they aint happy at all.but thats what media wants to make u believe. that if u have all that stuff ull be happy.or that if u become stuff like the kids on “made” from MTV, ull be popular.so if u buy sumthin to be popular, do urself a favor, and also buy a gun and shoot urself, cuz u gon end up being the loser kinda kid who wants to be popular, but cant, cuz hes trying to be sumthin he aint.buyin stuff cuz its popular is stupid.buying stuff cuz u like it and it fits ur needs. thats a smart choice.i have an ipod and love it. cuz all i want it an mp3 player and since i love minimalist style there is no more minimalist player out there (correct me if im wrong). plus i dont need all the other features and stuff.i didnt buy it to be popular. i bought it cuz i liked it. and as i told u i love it. i just hope i wont end up hating it after the battery dies.and ive always thot that fashion, the true sense of fashion, is not having, wearin or using what everyone else has, wears or uses. THE TRUE SENSE OF FASHION IS HAVIN, WEARIN OR USING WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WILL HAVE, WEAR OR USE, BEFORE THEY DO.

Bryan on June 20, 2006 6:31 PM

do none of you people realize this whole thing is a marketing gimmick? this isn’t some group or individual’s weblog… it’s a freaking ADVERTISEMENT.for a shitty product.

Jeff on June 21, 2006 10:43 PM

If you can suggest anything that’s better than the simplistic and mediocre looking mp3 player that comes free with a Powerbook (idont like Windows so I choose to get an Apple laptop for college) then I’ll probably get it. But until then I choose Apple products because unlike most of the other products you displayed there from coorporations of mindless conformity, Apple at least displays some cultural knowledge, such as with their Mac vs. PC ad campaign, and the use of real musicians such as Wynton Marsalis.Not hate mail, It’s a great site though I understand where you’re coming from.

David on June 22, 2006 11:43 PM

My sentiments exactly! I have a 5g video ipod and can testify that it is a POS. It worked fine for about 4 months of light use. Then, it would start to randomly pause every few seconds, making it practically useless as a music player. It turns out the cause was that it is programmed to pause whenever the headphones are removed, but it is sensitive to the point that the slightest movement will cause it to stop. This is a feature that cannot be disabled, although that could easily be changed with a firmware update. A little research on the internet showed that this is not a recent problem either, but has been plaguing ipod owners for years! Also, having to use iTunes to manage it reminds me of why I don’t have a mac. Next time, I will definitely not buy an ipod. For now, I’m hoping that the ipod linux project will have firmware for the g5 soon.

Stefan on June 23, 2006 1:52 AM

“Apple” is a strange topic.The ipod devices may be good mp3 players but there are a lot of other devices that are equal or even better. It’s an irrational hype. The success of ipod is just a result of aggressive marketing and PR. Of course the ipod users have to pay the price for all the commercials. Personally I tend to prefer products that are not pushed that much as long as they are equal or better.The strangest thing is that some apple/ipod users seem to have their own religion. Especially the apple computer users fight the “evil” Microsoft/Windows and love their good apple. But the computer topic is a completely different topic. Those who buy ipods because they prefer apple computers are close-minded. It’s even ironic how the apple-lovers fight the “Microsoft-world-dominion-plans” and support the ipod-world-dominion-effort.Don’t limit yourself to one brand. Don’t let others dictate what you have to buy or use.

ahappyiPod user on June 23, 2006 1:35 PM

why people still go on about this whole thing that iPod’s battery run out!! how many items in your home have batteries that die and no-one seems to care? for f***sake, all of the mobile phone’s I owned, had batteries that lasted less than 6months. My iPod is still working fine ater 2 years of heavy use!People, if you really want to think for yourself, DON’T listen to anyone, just decide for yourself. Now this wankers come up with the slogan “non iPod is cooler than iPod”… give me a break and spend your time with more useful things!

hh on June 23, 2006 1:37 PM

i agree with u man. iPod is still the cooler best designed mp3 player in the world.

nathan on June 23, 2006 9:55 PM

I don’t care which mp3 player matches me as an individual. I’m getting an iPod, you know why? Because I’m getting it for free. If i could get another brand for free then I’d get it. I don’t have time to waste on which player is best for me as an individual. I just want something that can play music. I’m not getting an iPod because of the status quo or because i can’t think for myself. I’m getting one so i can listen to music.

Nathan on June 23, 2006 10:09 PM

And by the way, the iDon’t campaign is owned and maintained by the Sandisc Corporation. http://www.idont.com/submissionspolicy.htmlIt’s just another marketing attempt by big corporation. how rebellious.

bsdkj on June 25, 2006 12:44 PM

I think getting an ipod is a waste. there are 10 million other freakin mp3 players that can play music. i pod doesnt sell replaceable batterys. which means you charge it more often. ipod nano costs 150$ for 1g(200 songs). rio mp3 carry 1500 and costs 150$. ipod yeah rip offfffffff

the candyman on June 26, 2006 1:48 PM

A brilliant site! I have been trying to tell people that iPods are taking over the world, but in Boulder CO, no one will listen. White earbuds are everywhere, and something must be done. Good for you for taking a stand agaginst Apple. On the side, I prefer PC to the overpriced Mac anyday and am the proud owner of a Toshiba Gigabeeat F40. And go Knights!

Sam on June 26, 2006 3:04 PM

My problems with the ipod are many, but most are directed at the complicitness of the buying public.1. When did it become reasonable to pay for a portable music player that will cost you upwards of $500?! Why didn’t we cry out and shout, “this is stupid!” That is way too much money to listen to music. Seriously, think about buying CD players in the late ’90s, early ’00s. We’re talking about $100. And then, because you can load enough music to last you 1,000 commutes, we pony up 5 times as much? For the, ummm, convenience of not having to change a disc? That’s crazy. And how long do they last? They are fragile and UNFIXABLE. You hear the word sustainability thrown around all the time? You wanna be sustainable? Guess what? Throwing away an electronic every two years because it is broken or no longer the newest ain’t sustainable.2. The branding. Why do we all insist on referring to it by it’s branded/trademarked name with the lowercase i and the upper case p? Like the Sony Walkman of the 80′s, Apple has successfully made “ipod” and “mp3 player” synonomous. If we want to say ipod instead of mp3 player, then we should stop writing it the way Apple wants us to. We don’t capitalise the W in walkman, so why do we submit to Apple’s trademarking.3. The accessories. Everything is called “i-something” because they are trying to suggest individualism and personalisation. Think “My Computer” in Windows. But is it personalised? Is your “itrip” really yours only? It isounds istupid. Stop isaying it igeeks.

.:bleaked on June 26, 2006 10:05 PM

As an advocate and user of Free Open-Source Software (FOSS) I am definitely keen on using alternatives (I even thoroughly explore alternative states of consciousness). I always thought iPods were nice devices; sleek, wonderful scroll-wheel, thin, etc. However, I never purchased one since 90% of my digital music was encoded in various free formats, namely ogg vorbis and flac. And then the holidays came around, and I was given a iPod Nano.Needless to say, I was less than thrilled, though appreciative of the generous gift. I thought I would give it a chance. After a few minutes, I actually fell in love with the device. After a few days I came to my senses and realised its flaws: poor list of supported formats, gaps in between tracks, and finally, iTunes was required to use it on Windows & OSX (not a problem for me, since GtkPod was an option — unfortunately I found the app to work very poorly and not a very elegant solution).So I gave up, and encoded some music into mp3 and suffered. I mostly used it as a USB Mass Storage device — a really expensive one at that!And then I discovered amaroK 1.4, with it’s full iPod support. How wonderful — the solution to my problems. ..And it was… for a while. Still had gaps, still only mp3/aac. I was just about to give up when..I discovered Rockbox ( http://www.rockbox.org/ ) This is the best find of the year for me. What more could you ask for? An open-source firmware replacement that supported iPods! Featuring gapless playback, cross fading, and many file formats are supported! (There are a ton more features, but those are the most important) I had the option to dual-boot the two firmwares, but after a while, I just removed the apple firmware all together, gained 60MB of space, and now the device boots in a mere second! Not only that, but I can now truly listen to albums without interruption, I have skins, games (go frozen bubble!), and no need for an application to write to a database — and thus I can drag and drop my media onto the device from any platform and just play it.Brilliant!

whatever on June 29, 2006 12:27 AM

i love everything about iPods, they are a brilliant machines, as is everything apple makes. it’s ridiculous that people are deciding that they cannot have an ipod just because everyone else may have one. i usually refuse to buy major brands of things because i want to be unique, but there is no denying the ipod is superior to the other mp3 players. i think the idea of launching a website called “anything but ipod” is silly, it’s a petty attack on an object.

what???? on June 29, 2006 1:55 PM

what the $#%” is ogg, flac and all that stuff??? u guys are freaks, dont u realize that ipods have been succesful simply cause u dont need to be a freaky geeky nerd to know how to use one??? u guys are geeks!!!! get a life, get a girl!!!! dude, seriously theres a world out there u know???

markos on July 4, 2006 6:05 PM

> Think for yourself. Be an individual.Up until now, I never realised that exercising my right to consumer choice could liberate me as an individual, but I’ve got to admit it – these black earphones and cosmetically different user-interface are way more ‘me’ than than that off-the-peg Apple trash.Thank you for freeing the obsessive consumer electronics nerd within me!

Joe on July 6, 2006 5:12 PM

I was gonna read all the comments but i got bored. Apple sucks long live the new MSOFT IPOD KILLER!!!!

Joe on July 6, 2006 5:15 PM

did i mention that ipods are dumb and any of you that think your hip and cool cuz you got one just makes you a tool. Apple computers suck too. Cant play games on em and people say that they are better for music and imaging but there not. not anymore now that windows have twice asd much power. I could go on and on

Ge on July 7, 2006 4:13 PM

This is interestingly presenting my feelings about The Windows OS makers and Wintel Computer Makers for the last decade. Just because there are more Wintel machines, doesn’t make them any better than a Mac. I thought this was a funny observation:) Thanks

Mr. Wizard on July 8, 2006 5:25 AM

I wonder what the iPodiots are going to do when Apple bites the dust? The iPod is probably the only reason the company is still in business. Its fanboys couldn’t buy enough Macs to keep it going…until Apple caved and changed to an Intel hardware platform that will run Windows software (however poorly…)Apple has always been about appearances and catering to the technologically incompetent. It has a history of making something very stylish, then marketing that thing as being simple, easy to use, minimalist, and/or user friendly when in fact, Apple products tend to be very limited as far as power and performance go, and often lock the user into Apple’s proprietary world.Apple has little trouble herding the ignorant masses into buying overpriced, heavily hyped and logoed crap — because it does a great job of convincing its True Fans that the Apple crap doesn’t smell bad and looks pretty. Most iPodiots seem to be very into trying to impress the sort of people who have that “keeping up with the Jones’” mentality which is exactly why Apple finds it so easy to line ‘em up at the iStore. (iDon’t.com does has some nice imagery to describe the trendy nature of the iPod and the mindlessness of the iPodiots, but it tries too hard…maybe because it is selling a competing product. :-) The clown who compared Apple products to Mercs (Mercedes, I think…surely not Mercury!) got his analogy all screwed up. The automotive equivalent of the Mac is a traditional Volvo — the sort of thing one associates with mindless, insecure soccer mommies and other technowimps who know they can’t drive well and want all the expensive safety gear Volvo will cheerfully sell them. iPods are more similar to mainstream Hondas…a lot of branding, adequate functionality, and “hip” amongst the crowd who don’t want to be bothered to become discriminating consumers.iPod, like Mac, is aimed squarely at the socially insecure crowd that knows it is technically incompetent but will settle for being fashionable. These are the same people who are very concerned about what everyone else is wearing, fearful of hearing, “Ewww! That’s so last week!”. Gullible people who are very worried that they will somehow be ostracized if they don’t conform to what advertisers tell them is proper consumer behavior. Watching the drooling iPodiots defend their decision to buy overpriced hardware and subscribe to a proprietary music distribution service, complete with obnoxious DRM, just so they can have their very own Apple logo stuff is most amusing. One can only laugh at people who will pay extra to have electronic logoware.FractalZoneesotriv.blogspot.com

The Egyptian on July 8, 2006 9:49 AM

What a strange site. Not yet owning an MP3 player I find the discussions about iPod vs “the other” rather telling. For example, Mr. Wizard’s post(s) above…. Rhetorically, the response is charged with unwarranted assertions about the kind of people who own iPods and, by faulty extension, Macintosh computers. In the world of argumentation, his criticisms are faulty on face, for they are ad hominem attacks.He makes the assertion that one associates Volvo’s with “mindless, insecure soccer mommies and other technowimps who know they can’t drive well and want all the expensive safety gear Volvo will cheerfully sell them.” Christ!!! of course! That’s why all those people own Volvos. In the same way, his analogy asserts, this is why people own iPods. Oh how clever.Then we have all his unreasoned deconstruction of the social class that own iPods and Macs. These people are “gullible…worried that they will somehow be ostracized if they don’t conform to what advertisers tell them is proper consumer behavior.” Of course! This must be why I have 15 cans of Ronco’s “Great Looking Hair” spray-on hair replacement to cover my baldspot, and why I have every model of the George Foreman Grill ever made (he’s so damn cute and cuddly, how could I not obey his every word?). Mr. Wizard, your petty criticisms are the rants of one who likes to see his clever observations posted in public. Your posting is, to quote Shakespeare, “a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, but signifying nothing,” at least not to those of us who really give a crap about meaningful market analysis.The purpose of this website is clearly justified–to advertise options to the market dominated by a highly successful product. It does that admirably and with reasoned observations based on functionality, etc. Would that many of those who post here had as much intelligence to base their criticisms upon analytic observation.The Egyptian

Gmoney on July 9, 2006 11:25 AM

I love people, or “loathe”, ahh mostly love. Nonetheless These comments might be the best part of the site, i guess i should check out whats inside next. But these comments are true expressions of how the consumer thinks, and is told to think. Thanks!!

Chris Davison on July 11, 2006 10:30 AM

I own a black iPod 30Gb VideoI’ll break this down simply.iPod is a PORTABLE MUSIC PLAYER.My iPod is portable.It plays music.Its easily navigatable. Simple to use.It holds all the music on my harddrive (just under 5k songs atm).I know other players have nice features, but who needs them.I’ve had my iPod for 7 months, NO FAULTS.I don’t use iTunes to transfer my music. I use foobar, my music player of choice.Oh, and for the record, no matter what you buy you are still “Part of the crowd”.If it’s for sale, someone else has bought it, and you are not original.Also, as for a players looks, i honestly spend my time LISTENING to music rather than LOOKING at the player, only time i look at it is when i’m changing album (dont use playlists…just listen through albums).I’m not an iPod fanboy. I just know that it does its job. And it does it well.It PLAYS MUSIC.Honestly, what else do you need from a MUSIC PLAYER.

Brian on July 12, 2006 1:02 AM

Thank you.Now please, tell this to my friends who still laugh at me becase me Creative Zen Vison: M is a but fatter then the iPod.

RJ45 on July 14, 2006 12:57 AM

I have read a handfull of posts and honestly there is bit of truth in all of them, even the high energy ones. Very entertaining, and somewhat insightful. The question is, what player should you get? As for myself, I have never been one to chase after the latest trend, but rather wait until the dust settles, see who the real contenders are, and let technologies prove themselves. In this way you are more likely to secure a better product at a better price. I have had very good service from my Ipod. It is intuitive, it will take a solid bounce, and does what it claims to do. In a perfect world my Ipod would clean my house too, but over all I am pleased with its performance.

jammo on July 14, 2006 3:28 AM

I pity the iPodders. Really I do.How much does an iPod cost? $300+How much space you get: 20G? 40? 80?How many f**kin songs can you put on there? Are you really planning to memorize all them songs? Are you really intent on listening for 1,000 HOURS of music?To hell with that.My SMT5600 Smartphone does all your shitty iPod can do and more.All I have is a 1G mini SD card, and I can watch a movie, or two.Jam to some rock while I’m at the gym.Play a game on my lunch break.All the while, I can make phone calls, work on my emails, sort my grocery list, send a text message, and way more …You spent how much and got JUST a music player?And also … when you are waltzing down the boulevard, how many other yahoos do you see with iPods?talk about individuality. you’re just one of a bunch of cows in a herd.

Sharath Bose on July 14, 2006 2:12 PM

i jus found this site today..n i’m very happy that there a lot more ppl like me..i’ve always hated the ipod..they are always over-rated..i hear ppl say tht iPod is the best n nothin can even come near it..i’ve always believed that there are better players..n now i’m happy that there are many more ppl like me..thank u guys..

demonofanarchy on July 16, 2006 2:13 PM

aot of my friends have ipods, and i wasnt impressed with them. its a decent mp3 player, but i dont like how you cant edit playlists or their names. and i hate macs, i think they suck ass. they work fine, its just that they look like hell, are a pain in the ass to upgrade, and all the ones ive seen can hardly play any games at all. and for me, they freeze up alot. personally, i like linux better than windows or mac, but i use windowsand to haters of this site, what the creator means by “peoplce cant think if they buy ipods” is that most people think ipods: are their only option, are the best, and the cheapest. and alos, alot of people who buy ipods do it because they look cool or because its cool to have an iPod.

pvpfan on July 20, 2006 1:59 AM

please test archos av500 and cowon a2 thx

Phil Goode on July 25, 2006 6:40 PM

i think it’s a little frightening that a lot of people here “HATE” a device. it is a thing, at times a tool others an entertainment but nonetheless, a device. people who say or write “I HATE (add product here)” i find suspect, immature and incapable of reasonable thought. if one were to say “I Hate Bigotry” or “I Hate Injustice” or even “I Hate Love”, that i could understand.consider this… “I hate VINYL SIDING and I pity all those poor fools who use it. If they had any since they’d realize that BRICK is a waaaaay better product! It insulates, it’s low maintainance, and it lasts! If they had brains and didn’t [i]follow the crowd[/i] they’d realize that BRICK was a superior product! VINYL SIDING sucks.”in reality, i do not hate VINYL SIDING. why would i? it’s just a product and some people choose it over other products because they like it. not everyone does… and that’s okay. but if you hate a physical thing and then berate the people who like or use that thing, then you’ve sunk to the level of a school child. such conversations are similar to the ones i’ve heard between my students:Jim: “Dude, Pokemon sux. Yu-Gi-Oh rocks!”Slim: “Nuh-uh! Yu-Gi-Oh iz like Da Bomb! Pokemon iz fer babies!Jim: “Nuh-uh!”Slim: “Yuh-huh!”…so on and so forth.do your research. try the products. buy what works for you.and for the record i use both Windows and Mac OS. Windows at work and at home i use both… on the same Macintosh computer. dual boot and going for three! later i just may add Linux via an outboard harddrive.’nuff said.peace out.

Toon on July 26, 2006 11:50 PM

Anything but iPod?! Gimme a break. Anything but iPods won’t be around in a few months. Which means Sony gets my money now for a half-a**ed device (have you TRIED their car audio? Worst players EVER MADE) and by Christmas I won’t have any updates or any use for my device.Thanks for telling us we’re free to choose. Of COURSE we’re free to choose, morons. That’s why we choose iPods. iPods are quality thru and thru. And people, don’t believe the phony comments posted on this site by MAKERS of this site (c’mon, they’re even trying to sound like teenagers). Apple backs ANY product, and when my iPod did crap out (any piece of tech is vulnerable), I walked into an Apple store and walked out with a BRAND NEW one, FREE of charge. Don’t believe any “iDon’t” hype. Windows is a joke, Sony is a joke. ScanDisk is dope but won’t be making any players a year from now.

Jon on August 3, 2006 11:42 AM

WHO GIVES A FUCK.Why does it even matter if someone buys an iPod over some other mp3 player.Dipshits.

ipod lover on August 5, 2006 7:50 PM

Can someone enlighten me about another flash mp3 player that I can purchase without paying any cash to Micro$oft (in)directly???

Brian Nguyen on August 6, 2006 4:09 PM

To ipods lover:Hmmm I do believe that the Ipods pay more cash to M$ than many other DAPs since M$ does own a significant amount of Apple stock.__________I must say I resent many of the anti-ABi people who post quite obsene comments here, the purpose of this site is to enlighten, not bash. I have never seen comments like “Ipods suck” on this website, in fact Enzo has given credit to the Ipods where it is deserved. The problem this site is trying to solve is the majority of people who don’t know what Meizu is or never heard of Cowon, among other quality brands and brush them off as no-name garbage.

dave on August 16, 2006 8:20 PM

I’ve listened to and used an iPod before. I like them, and I have to admit that Apple definitely knows how to grab a hold of a market. They are easy to use and have cool features, plus they are quite a fad now so it’s not hard to see why so many kids are getting them.However, for people who want a player features an iPod lacks (built in FM tuner, better video support, better audio quality, more audio tweaking options), the market generally does not easily let you explore these options. For those who like to encode in audio formats such as OGG Vorbis (by many regarded a vastly superior codec compared to mp3 and marginally better than many other formats), the iPod simply does not offer support.So where does this second group of people go who have looked at iPod’s and want to explore other options? Why, to ABiPod of course. Thanks for a great site!

YouKay on August 22, 2006 5:23 PM

“(with iPod) you give up your right to choose”, I feel the opposite is more true. Look at the choise of accessories that you can integrate well with the iPod.Cases, Tubes, Sleeves…The choices are nearly endless…Auto Integration…Getting more and more standard with many cars. And you can find so many products that works well with iPod. Even though you can find some that works with headphone input, the quaulity is very low and has no way to charge or control the player.Home Audio …You can find many with the headphone input for other player, but if you want an integrated ( charges, remote …) you are out of luck.If the competion is clever they can work together and create an industry standard accessory interface and force iPod to work with the same interface. I do not see that happening unless Apple opens up thier interface standard for others.I do like to buy something better than iPod, but the way competion progresses the chance of that is getting lower and lower

RCX on August 26, 2006 7:51 PM

Personally I agree with the large amount of choices out there and that most people don’t know much about technology just “go with the trend”. I am a computer technician at a top 50 university and I personally owned a iAudio 5 1GB for about a year before switching to *gasp* an iPod G5 Video 30GB. Why the switch?I’ll tell you first off that I am in no way a fan of Apple. I deal with Apples on a daily basis and still rather use a PC. The style that the iPod has is indeed attractive, but I also liked the way the Sansa e200 looked.It was getting to the time where 1GB was just simply not enough anymore. Anyone who is familiar the iAudio series knows that they support open source files such as OGG as well as WMA and others. Sounds good and all on paper right? Several problems. Sure OGG is a nice option for a lot of people but alas, Windows Media Player hates it and will not play without additional support. Winamp does, but does it support unicode? nooo… No hate towards foobar but I just didn’t like it. Then there was this and that so, those extra so-called options were nonetheless useless to me so I was stuck with the tried and true MP3 format. I’m not saying they are useless to others btw, just to me.Out I go, shopping for a new MP3 player with my extra $300 in scholarship money. The iPod was, of course, last on my mind. Looked up the Samsung Z4, but wasn’t overall impressed by it. Saw the Creative, didn’t like it. Saw the Sansa, it looked nice right? Except the price. 6GB = $279. Conveniently beside the Sansa was the iPod video 30GB… for $299. No brainer.Would I have had gotten something else had there had been some other decent competition in the market? Hell yea, I would’ve rathered not look like the millions of others with the white earphones. But there weren’t.I still have my iAudio btw. I know that this lil thing can take any beating at it while the iPod scratches like a pansy. I use it going to the gym and such, but on a daily basis, sorry, it’s an iPod.

Gramage on August 30, 2006 3:31 PM

You know, reading these comments makes me almost embarassed to me a Mac and iPod user. You’d think they were under personal attack just because some people don’t like iPods. I owned a 40gb 4th gen iPod and was extremely pleased with it, until it was stolen. Now I am using my sister’s old 10gb 3rd gen, and even after being dropped 20 feet onto hard concrete and breaking into three peices, it still works great (duct tape can fix anything). I don’t want an FM tuner (radio sucks), I don’t use ogg or wma. I’ve been using iTunes since it was released so no problems there. I just want easy to use and sexy, which the iPod is ;) You can use whatever you want, but don’t call me a sheep just because I happen to prefer iPods over anything else out there right now. I plan to replace this four year old iPod (which still works as it did the day we bought it) with a 60gb black iPod Video later this year. Not because I’m unhappy with the one I’m using, but because I have 40gb of music, and a 10gb HD hardly cuts it anymore.

DaCopper on September 3, 2006 11:23 PM

iPod wouldn’t be such a successful product if it wasn’t a good one, and it is. However, the way Apple markets its iPods, it seems their mp3 players is DA ONLY choice around. Just like with the latest Apple ads with a fat Bill Gates look-alike and a slim hip dude, it makes you think Windows has all the problems in the world. In reality, Apples are plagued with same sort of problems, only on a smaller scale (because Macs take up less than 5% of the computer market worldwide and very few people want to waste time to write viruses and adwares for them doesn’t mean they don’t). Don’t trust the ads from the company that almost closed its doors in the late 90′s and was bailed out by the same Bill Gates that they now mock (a moment of truth, eh?).

facsimil3 on September 5, 2006 12:24 AM

I own/have owned an iPod shuffle, iPod Nano, and iPod w/Video. I have to say that I have loved every one of them. Never once have they failed to turn on, corrupted, or broken on me. If I am a “faceless” person in the crowd because I purchased and use Apple iPods, then so be it. I happen to prefer a device that that feels as though some thinking and logic went into its design. A device that feels as though I got my $100-$300 worth out of it (iPod shuffle not included), instead of a handful of plastic that feels as though it will break with use. When I hold most of the other mp3 players out there, I feel like I have a toy in my hand. When I hold an iPod, I feel like I am holding a quality piece of electronics design. There are other options out there. And there are many choices for many people. I didn’t buy an iPod because I was told to by the advertising, or because I wanted to be “cool” like all the other iPod owners. I bought it because that’s what I wanted. Because I’m not buying a $300 FM radio. Because I love iTunes (even MusicMatch is better than Windows Media Player). And because it just works. That’s what I paid for. That’s what I get out of it.

grant kenneth on September 7, 2006 8:18 PM

I bought an Ipod 30g off a workmate. Not cos I especially wanted an Ipod, just a good MP3 player with decent storage. And it was cheap, so I thought why not give it a go? Having had it a while, I now know it’s good and bad points. The bad: scratches very easily, battery life is adequate at best (especially if playing videos), frankly quite crap sound as standard, and the price for accessories is horendous, i.e, paying nearly half the price i paid for a cover?. The good: size, weight, reliability and Rockbox. Mainly Rockbox. You see, Rockbox transforms the Ipod from a “mp3 player for the dumb” into what it should have been in the first place. Support for Ogg, Flac, plus all the other codecs, custom screens, hardware and software equaliser support, gapless playback, etc, etc. And no Itunes to navagate. just drop and drag! And Free!! (will be donating tho). Sure its not the easiest thing to use, and a bit of a nightmare to install, but now I cant look at a standard Ipod without going “pffft”. So while I agree that a standard Ipod is nothing special compared to the masses, an Ipod running Rockbox is a music lovers dream. What was an impulse purchase has turned out to be the best money I have spent in ages.

John Fetzner on September 9, 2006 11:12 PM

Some of us dont care what our mp3 player looks like we just want the most economical one and when a 2 gig nano costs as much as a 8 gig micro photo i think im going to go with the 4x more storage space i dont really care that its thicker too many people care what other people think of them and most (i didn’t say all) of ipod users buy them because everybody has an ipod

Just wasted 10 minutes on September 10, 2006 12:59 AM

WOW! One whole year of arguing. This is the internet. Nobody cares what you think. It’s your money, buy what you want. Move on with your meaningless existance. There are more important things in the world than a bunch a people with so much time and money on their hands that they can argue about their media players. I can’t believe I just wasted fifteen minutes of MY life reading this. Time to move on….

MissingMermaid on September 10, 2006 2:12 PM

I like your site…I’m not being mean to all those iPod lovers out there, but for some reason I just can’t get down with it. I find Macs annoying…everything they make is so white. Anyways…my dislike of the iPod is based purely on the fact that they are way too popular. And when my friends tell me that iPods are ever so great, I tell them that I don’t want to be like anyone else. Not to say that everyone who has an iPod is like everyone else. I just prefer being different. I have a Sansa m230…it’s userfriendly, blue, and tiny…I wouldn’t trade for anything but a 1 gig version of itself (I was cheap so i bought the half gig, but i would trade it in for a 1 gig if i wasn’t such a poor student).I say live a let live. I like your site…it’s non-judgmental. I enjoy that…I think the haters should leave you alone…you’re just trying to display options. I say keep up the good work.

Gojira on September 10, 2006 11:02 PM

I admit I am a true tecno geek from lets say Amiga, Commadore, and TRS80 days. In this day of almost everything being made from the same ideas and pushed by the consumer market isn’t the only difference slight patent differences and marketing? It likens to buying car. Toyota vs Chevy. Mercedes vs Porsche. It’s the consumer who decides market share, and I own both the Ipod Video 60G and the Creative Zen 30G. Both have a definite place in my daily life. I use the Ipod while I commute into work, usually on a motorcyle, and I use the Zen in the office (why? because I’m a tecno geek plain and simple. Had to try both to see which one I liked. It’s like test driving a car or new motorcycle, just cheaper. I perfer the video on the Zen and I can also put the vid on my computer screen.I like the site. People at work have seen both. some perfer the Ipod and some perfer the Zen, but most wouldn’t have known the Zen existed without my having it. Enough ranting though, and thanks for your time.

big up the ipods on September 16, 2006 5:57 AM

I can see why some people hate ipodstake the ipod with video for examplesome portable video players play alot more formats than a fixed-resolution h.264 MP4 video.some have much better screenssome play much more music formatssome have MUCH better batterybut still i have an ipod, and i woudnt swap it for anything else!

meathane on September 17, 2006 1:47 PM

haha try getting a Bose soundock for the zune or any other pos you can buy.Plus i bet the staff in the shop where u buy ur zune wont show u how it works, how the software works, or will fix it for free when it’s in warranty

greg on September 18, 2006 8:45 PM

can anyone translate the above?

Dude on September 19, 2006 9:01 AM

I find it interesting that the same argument can be turned around. What argument you ask? This:> I talk to many people who think an iPod is their only choice.Funny almost everyone I talk to believe that PCs running Windows are their only choice.Lastly: > Think for yourself. Be an individual.Guess what you are an individual, truly unique, just like everyone else.In the end it’s a device, they play music, Apple simply does better.

E. Pluribus Unum on September 21, 2006 9:07 AM

i have to agree with a few things i saw in eariler posts:1. If your electronics buying decision is based mostly on what the guy at Best Buy/Circuit City told you, you’re already in trouble.**good advice. use your brain. do your own research. here is a good start.2. Beware of people who say things like “I Hate (add company here)!!” If you talk to them long enough you’ll find that they “Hate” a great many things for a variety of odd and often immature reasons. And if you actually hate an mp3 player… well, you should get out of your parents basement more often.**again, good. disregard anything at this site with the word “hate” or other bias or putdowns. base your research on the facts. also, there are a lot of music formats out there (mp3, mp4, wav, WMA, Ogg, FLAC, etc.) and you and you dont have to buy all your music compressed, but if you DO buy music it’s going to be in either mp3, mp4 or some form of WM and if you have or would like to get a car head unit that plays compressed formats they are likely to play mp3, mp4 or WMA but NOT the more esoteric types. doesn’t matter how “great” it sounds if it wont play where you want it.3. Buy what works for you… just try to be sure that the company you buy it from will be around for a little while to help you should something go wrong.**a lot of companies have gotten out of the digital music area. be sure your next player isnt “On Sale!” because of this. i’ve had this happen to me before, it ain’t cool. and lastly, the following comment, albeit somewhat politically incorrect, is quite true:”Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics.Even if you win, you’re still retarded.”so long and thanks… for all the fish.

Jennifer on October 2, 2006 10:26 PM

Interesting web page is, i’ll see you later one more time.

Kurt Langland on October 7, 2006 12:11 PM

Per the above posts…..I’ve always tried to go my own way. I too was a loyal Amiga user…and only reluctantly moved into the Windows Universe. I always found Windows….and I started with the earliest versions (that were basically MS-DOS…..clumsy and bug-prone.I finally broke with the herd and made a move to OSX. I’m now in a minority group and treated with some scorn by my friends who think it normal to re-format their HD every six months.I use a 4th generation iPod…not because it is the best player out there….but it is the best to use with OSX. I don’t care all that much one way or another what plays my music. But even iPod haters have to admit that with OSX there are few easy options.I just want things to work with out many distractions. For me as a mac user…iPods do the job.

Thisasecret on October 9, 2006 2:17 PM

I really don’t see peoples problem. You hate iPod. Fair enough, I can live with that. You think it is locked. Yeah right! Okay, so you can’t use the drag’n'drop without iTunes. That surely sucks. You can’t run iTunes on an old computer. Sure, not everyone can afford to buy a computer very often, they have other (and more important) things to spend their money on.But to come out and say that iPod, Apple and AAC sucks, without giving a reason for it, that is so up your arsenal stupid that I can’t do anything but laugh at it. And it makes me angry, because you critizise what I like, without giving a reason for it.iPod is no more locked than any other system. I give a long shitcreek in what other functions the player has, I don’t wnat to use the player for video, games and all that stuff. I wnat to use it for music! Music god damn it! Easy for me to say, I’m a Macintosh-user! Surely, I must be braindead and brainwashed since I use Mac and defend iPod! Lock me up now, and throw away the key!Okay, seriously. The day Creative makes an MP3-player that actually supports the format AAC, (which by the way IS better than MP3 and WMA), I would consider buying it.And one more thing. The music you download from Kazaa or Limewire or whatever you use, sucks big time. Either it’s MP3 with low bitrate and/or joint stereo-crap, which ruin the music completely, or it’s WMA, which is crap no matter how you twist or turn it. It is not a matter of how many players that support the format, it’s about the quality of the music. Think quality, and rip your music in 320kbps normal stereo MP3 or better. Avoid joint stereo if you can, and especially avoid the WMA-formats. (Avoid Apple Lossless as well, I think Apple has some sort of evil patent on it. I use it because I don’t share the music I got. (Mostly because I can’t)).

Enlightened on October 17, 2006 1:58 AM

The worst thing about owning an Apple is having to tell your dad that you’re gay. On the bright side, though, the only virus Apple users have to be afraid of, is AIDS. Apple = fruity name (a truly fitting label).

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amat on November 2, 2006 3:28 PM

Oh, for heaven’s sake. All these people whining about the subject matter of anything but an ipod…….it’s just a website. Get a life.

David on November 7, 2006 12:14 AM

Hey guys I’m going to make every single post on this comment board obsolete:Guy who made site: It sure seems like a lot of people are using iPods, maybe I can use the internet to show the masses other optionsFlock of Sheep 1: Nu-uh! The iPod is great, I don’t see why you have to make it sound like we only buy it because other people have it. I bought it because I like it (although, I maaaay not have really looked into to other mp3 players)Flock of Sheep 2: Well, you probably do buy it because everyone else has it, on account of the iPod sucking in comparison to the other ones. Besides, when too many people have one thing, it officially becomes un-cool, and we have to all buy something else to be cool, until too many people do that.Flock of Sheep 1: TECH SPEC TECH SPEC AAC AAC!Flock of Sheep 2: Ugh, you are _so_ untrendyThere, no stop the fanboy-ing, you big freakin’ babies.

Kevin on November 8, 2006 10:11 PM

one thing surprising is that “David on November 7, 2006 12:14 AM” post was actually what many people think about. flock of sheep #1 is the people and flock of sheep #2 are the people who are smarter about what they buy

gabba on November 11, 2006 1:56 PM

I think this site is great :-) .I’ve bought the first iPod in 2001, and had so many since… Music is essential to me, the iPod (or my brand-new Samsung K5) is just a player. You know what? One of the most important values in life is to *have choice*, and this site contributes to spread information and make the potential buyer aware of possible choices in the players segment.Keep up the good work!

Applerocks on November 12, 2006 9:49 PM

Apple,Ipod and AAC are the best. They are good quality products. Don’t get angry because you like DELL’s fat 800 inch thick mp3 player bulging out of your pocket.

Laura C on November 13, 2006 11:06 AM

Excuse me, can anyone PLEASE tell me when and if the 8gb Creative ZenV plus is coming out in the USA? I have been holding off on buying an mp3 player since my old Zen X broke, hard drive just died. I would love to get it for Christmas, so, does anyone know?????????

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Jacko on November 15, 2006 11:53 AM

Graham,Congratulations on the site. The dominance of the iPod is such that somewhere that concentrates on alternatives is helpful.While I don’t really agree that “There are other MP3 players out there that are easier to use”, I would happily concede that there are players that “give you more for your money”, and even some that “still have style and class.”And I’d applaud your view that there are “many people who think an iPod is their only choice. This is why this website was started, to show people their alternatives and to educate them so they are able to make their own informed decisions.”There will always be people for whom the iPod is not the best choice – they are expensive, and there are audio formats that are not supported. (There is even a need to cater for the narrow minded nut-cases who want anything as long as it doesn’t have an Apple logo on it!).I happen to think that the iPod’s elegant simplicity, together with iTunes (despite the limitations of iTunes) makes it the best uncompromised music player for the average user, and I suspect that is why it has enjoyed such huge commercial success. People aren’t that stupid, after all.But I’m disappointed by the ignorant and confrontational tone of your post:To claim that: “With the iPod there are no decisions to make; you give up your right to choose. You are just another face in the crowd, with the same player and the same service” is offensive, stereotypical narrow minded nonsense and you, as an apparently intelligent chap, should be ashamed for posting it.Your inferences that iPodders are not “individuals who can think for themselves” is equally off-base, and the idea that iPod purchase decisions are, by definition, not based on the facts, but on “what corporations or the media dictates” is pathetic.Some of the responses here smack of the “I wear black, I have a facial piercing, I am therefore an individual, not like the rest of you schmucks” attitudes that underpin the latest immature pre-teen conformacy.So good luck with explaining and promoting alternatives to the iPod, but do grow up and stop the infantile anti-Apple propaganda and nonsense.

Zain Dyer on November 23, 2006 11:50 AM

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alia on November 29, 2006 5:43 AM

i want to buy a modulatot by myself not by the internet waynow , how i can find your shops???

El Gruga on November 29, 2006 2:44 PM

Most amusing!WHo gives a f**k about what MP3 player you are using? ITS THE MUSIC YOU LISTEN TO THAT COUNTS, you fools.While you are all arguing about NOTHING – the big beast of the record industry, helped by Microshit will find a way to put up the prices and restrict your ability to LISTEN to your music.THATS WHERE THE FIGHT IS – NOT HERE!Apple? Well they have kept prices low for iTunes songs, you can use the ipod as a storage device, or a DAP, and its a good product. So is the Creative stuff and the Sandisk.Hell the Palm TX is a great unti with a 4 gig player if you want to buy an sd card and it has wireless etc.Come to think of it, the PALM TX is WAY better than the idiotic zoon……Has real wifi plays movies, plays songs, download stuff from the net etc.Little more expensive than a simple DAP, of course.Aword on sites like this. They are based on a NEGATIVE premise, and thats never a good thing. If the site really did what it said, it would be “the mp3 player site”, wouldnt it?I suspect that these people get CASH from Microsoft etc. for this insane negative site.

Gaz on November 30, 2006 1:03 AM

You’re more than welcome to not like that the iPod is a closed system, but if that’s the reason for this site, why are you covering the Zune? Isn’t that a bit hypocritical?

saacc on December 3, 2006 10:52 AM

so that’s the true!!! people use iPod because they don’t know any others…i come from the czech republic and i was always wondering why should people buy/use the expensive and “closed-system” iPods when there are so many cheaper and much better equipped mp3 players.

IJ on December 3, 2006 6:06 PM

The reason I finally bought the iPod is because I’ve used iTunes since before it was iTunes (SoundJam). It’s far and away the best piece of software in this catergory.Apple’s software has always been the reason its products are better. The upscale hardware is just an added benefit.Apple trounces the PC because it controls (as in, quality controls) both the hardware and software. No conflicts, no constant advertising, no internal competition within a product. It just works.

Irene on December 5, 2006 1:59 PM

I can’t be bothered with anything recently. It’s not important. More or less nothing noteworthy going on right now, but I don’t care. I’ve pretty much been doing nothing. Shrug.

CHARLENE on December 9, 2006 4:43 PM

HI CAN ANYONE HELP ME, I’M BUYIN A IPOD FOR MY BOYFRIEND FOR CHRISTMAS BUT I DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT 2,4,6,8GBS PLEASE HEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

allofmp3 dot com on December 12, 2006 9:46 AM

Apple has this new thing called Idisk,It’s a CD player that plays proprietary CDs from Apple.It looks and sounds better than any other CD player, and just like Mp3 players, it’s been around for years. If you’re an Apple fan, you’re sure to want one.

getalong on December 20, 2006 11:50 AM

Good Lord, can’t we all just get along???!!!Look, this is a great site for people who truly care about their options. We’ve all heard everything there is to say about the iPod, so if that’s what you’re here to talk about, just shut up because WE KNOW!!!!!! btw, I went looking this holiday season, and I think the iPod is wonderful, in fact, almost bought one… but I chose the ZV:m. Why? not because i listened to a bunch of arguments, but because I wanted to make an informed decision, so I did two weeks’ worth of my OWN research (including a SIGNIFICANT amount of time on iTunes and the Apple Store and iPod fansites)… I’m a teacher (read not wealthy) and anything over $200 is an investment for me. It had to be a good one. I’m not saying the ZV:m is better, it just fits me and is exactly what I need. btw, check this out (independent review) http://dapreview.net/zune_vs_ipod_vs_zvm.html

Daniel Reeves on January 1, 2007 7:33 PM

I totally do not think for myself and I am completely uninformed for owning an iPod.Oh wait…!Way to be a total anti-fanboy and a hypocrite, as well.It’s cute and all that you’re trying to promote other MP3 players, but if you’re going to do so, try it in a neutral POV, as in try to not demote the iPod with ad hominem attacks to people who own iPods.I also think the people who post things bashing the people who are responding to this article with things like “hey if the iPod is so great why do you have the need to respond?” or something like that are cute, as well. They’re all also probably hypocrites, because being the long-time Internet troll I am, I could probably incite some serious rage in them on a certain subject that would make these mere rebuts to the article seem like appraisal in comparison.In short, I hate people who deviate for the sake of deviation, and I hate people who look at people using the common product as conformists and single-minded people.Have fun, losers!

Daniel Reeves on January 2, 2007 8:34 PM

A day late, but definitely not a buck short. J just thought my extra two cents would come in handy here:It’s also safe to note that people who “deviate for the sake of deviation” are no better than people who conform to be one with the crowd… it’s the exact same concept–basing an action on the popularity and social acceptance of something else–just in reverse. They’re both equally detestable.Sure, go by something that isn’t an iPod, but doing so because the iPod is an iPod is, well, stupid.Have fun yet again, losers!

JoeB on January 10, 2007 11:01 AM

Apple makes a half decent MP3 player??? Did you watch the iPhone keynote video???

steve on January 29, 2007 10:44 PM

I can say screw apple. Their products arnt bad but not the best. The ipod has had the same flaws since its inception. Mine broke and apple refused to cover it under warranty. it was only a few months old.While most MP3 players do seem to suck there are many ones that are better then ipod.Good things about ipod is that there are SO MANY asc’s for it most others lack thisthe Zen comes to mind it will play just about any format.I could only imagine if apple made cars.It would be a Car that would only run apple Gas and Apple brand tires and you could never change its oil. When the engine blows up apple would deny the claim but also mention they gave the NEWEST MODEL CAR OUT with the hippest advertising out

Vikari on February 7, 2007 9:21 PM

I enjoyed your page. Keep up the good work!

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