Affordable 32GB SDHC Cards Boost Flash Players to a New Level

32gbsdhc Affordable 32GB SDHC Cards Boost Flash Players to a New Level

The last few years the number of hard drive players have diminished drastically and we’re left with only the iPod Classic, Zune and a few large media players that still use this technology. There has been somewhat of a gap between HDD players going off the market and flash players replacing them as there’s still only a few players doing 32GB of flash. A forum topic about a new 32GB PNY card on Amazon is the first sign we’re getting that SDHC cards have now reached 32GB at a reasonable price. This means that players using SDHC cards will now get a drastic memory boost. Read on to see the possibilities of these new cards.

SDHC cards are supported by more and more players, but the most common ones are the Cowon D2, Creative Zen and the Archos 605 flash. All these players should in theory support the 32GB SDHC cards although someone always have to take the plunge and be the first one to test. The 32GB SDHC will boost the maximum capacity of the above players to 48GB, 64GB and 36GB respectively. There are of course downsides like the poor integration of the SD files on the Zen and the 4000 files limit on the D2.

The D2 does integrate files however, so if you have a 16GB D2 and a 32GB SDHC card you can use the internal memory for smaller files and the card for larger files and then use ID3 browsing to browse them all as one. This should get you pretty close to filling the 48GB and with FLAC and OGG support the D2 should now prove even more of a lovable gadget for those with large music collections. At $235 for the 16GB D2 and $150 for the 32GB SDHC it’s not a bad deal for 48GB of flash especially seeing some flash players go for $320 for 16GB alone. I do however again have to press the issue that we still don’t know 100% for sure if the card will work – it should, but it still needs confirmation.

The largest capacity flash player you can get with real integration is now the Nokia N800. If you read the Canola feature you know it doesn’t lack features and with dual SDHC slots it’s a full 64GB of flash memory fully integrated in your portable music library. It will cost you close to $550 and there are definitely players with better sound quality, but it’s always an option.

Rumors on the infamous world wide web also says that SanDisk is planning to drop internal memory altogether, something that’s surely not a bad idea seeing that memory cards seem to be outmaneuvering internal memory in terms of cost. It’s also a nice way to let people choose capacity themselves without the companies having to offer up different models which will both help make things simpler in terms of running out of stock of some capacities- also to fix the problem of having one model left over while others sell out. Imagine having the Sansa Clip or Sansa Fuze with only a SDHC slot; both players have excellent sound quality and with support for memory cards only you could either stick with 2-4-8GB or go all the way with 32GB. Personally I love the Clip and would love for it to support all my music. I don’t need a big screen and the Clip is already faster at browsing than most big players.

Either way the 32GB cards will open up a lot of new possibilities and maybe help convert some HDD fans to the flash side of things. A release price of $150 isn’t half bad and SDHC cards have a tendency to drop to half the price within 6-12 months, so while we wait for the cards to be even cheaper there’s only one thing left to ask: When will the 64GB cards be out? EDIT: Never, since commenters have pointed out SDHC cards have a maximum capacity of 32GB

20 Comments

Anonymous on June 19, 2008 5:48 PM

From the article:”Imagine having the Sansa Clip or Sansa Fuze with only a SDHC slot;”I like that idea. It’s on a par with the leap from CD (74 minutes) to CD-R with 800MB MP3 (typically 8-10 hours of MP3s), and the following conversation:”Wow, man, that’s a great disc (chip) you brought for our road trip. What do you call it?”"The 80s.”

Jubei on June 19, 2008 6:13 PM

Crap, this means we are back to removable storage.I really hate it that the only large capacity player available now is the iPod Classic.

Geoff on June 20, 2008 6:58 PM

Hard disks are definitely near death in the DAP market.The double knockout blow that solid state memory will deal HDD is that not only are memory cards dropping in price and soaring in capacity, but memory-less players will be cheaper plus offering more choice to the user. If you get a new player, then you should at least be able to use the old memory cards too. Less wastage, more usage.And Even if it’s removeable, that doesn’t mean it has to be changed around all the time like a cassette or CD. Some people may never need to take it out over the life of the player if it’s capacious enough for their needs.

Geoff on June 20, 2008 7:00 PM

Hard disks are definitely near death in the DAP market.The double knockout blow that solid state memory will deal HDD is that not only are memory cards dropping in price and soaring in capacity, but memory-less players will be cheaper plus offering more choice to the user. If you get a new player, then you should at least be able to use the old memory cards too. Less wastage, more usage.And even if a card is removable, that doesn’t mean it has to be changed around all the time like a cassette or CD. Some people may never need to take it out over the life of the player if it’s capacious enough for their needs.

Dalmane98 on June 20, 2008 7:55 PM

The PNY 32GB SDHC has been tested on a D2 and it works!!!

Reubo on June 21, 2008 10:30 PM

I like the idea of a Sansa without internal memory. They have to bundle SD cards of course, but it’s a nice idea. I think that the new players Sandisk releases should come with two or three SD slots so we can have a lot of memory.Anyways, hard drives can crash (The hard drive iPods are less reliable than the flash iPods) and since it’s a mobile device, the hard drive gets shaken around a lot which is bad.

Xenodius on June 22, 2008 3:46 PM

Jubei, nobody ever remembers the Zune 80. Its a hella nice player, beats the iPod Classic by far. Still MTP only though.

vēer on June 22, 2008 4:02 PM

Well, i truly hope that they WILL keep some built in storage in their players, for example default 2Gb. Relying solely on SDHC cards if bit lame IMO. Im talking about situations when one wants to lets say change card and insert some other music while keeping two-three albums from previous card on the players memory.

anonymous on June 22, 2008 5:40 PM

SDHC standard limits cards to 32gb in capacity.

trikon000 on June 24, 2008 1:08 AM

Most current mp3 players don’t allow playlists with media on removable media. Sony being the biggest of the offenders of this (all electronics capable don’t allow this) is going to feel some major hurt due to the capacity of HC cards.Those that can’t or won’t allow playlist with media from these types of cards will be in the recycle bin real soon.

Piper – the Peter on June 24, 2008 9:08 AM

“SDHC standard limits cards to 32gb in capacity.”Yes, and to quote another bloke from the net:”NewJohnny @ Aug 22nd 2007 7:56PMSDHC has got to be the worst format ever. Hardly a year goes by, and it’s already obsolete. 32GB limit? What the hell were they thinking? Look at this July 2006 Engadget post for more rants:http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/17/sandisk-joins-the-sdhc-club/“What foresight!I’m glad my recorder “runs” on both HDD and CF.Looks like we’re in for yet another format.Anyway, although this card is butt-slow to say the least, for this type of application (putting it in an audio player), this is a great price and a great size.

cBc on June 24, 2008 11:15 AM

My hope is that micro SDHC can get a similar boost in storage capacitysince I own two Sansa e series players (rockboxed) that I hope will still be viable for the near future.

cBc on June 24, 2008 11:17 AM

My hope is that micro SDHC can get a similar boost in storage capacitysince I own two Sansa e series players ,rockboxed, that I hope will still be viable for the near future.

Piper – the Peter on June 27, 2008 11:55 AM

It propably will, CBC. It’s just that microsdhc are naturally behind the bigger sizes. It’s the same as with 2.5″ harddiscs versus 3.5 inchers and so on.

Muffinwalker on June 28, 2008 4:40 PM

Mmm, 32GB. As an owner of both a Cowon D2 and a Nokia N800, I’m pleased with this development. I can finally fit every episode of The Simpsons (yes, every one of them!) on a single SDHC card. :-D Technically, SDHC cards are limited to 2TB capacities. The 32GB “limit” is not a technical one at all; Wikipedia states that “the SD Card association have artificially defined the maximum limit of SDHC capacity to 32 GB.” This could in part be because FAT32 is the standard’s file system of choice, though nothing prevents using FAT32 on larger partitions or using a different file system on the cards with players that support them (such as the N800)I would be very surprised if no manufacturer released a 64GB SDHC card. Expect the association to increase the spec’s “limit”, some manufacturers to buck the association and market out-of-spec 64GB cards, or (most likely) a mix of both.

M.Fallas on July 17, 2008 9:17 PM

Imagine a model called: “Sansa SD/Clip”No built-in memory, but a SDHC slot.I’d love buying one and a couple of 32GB SDHCs.I still haven’t found what I’m looking for… a small DAP, Audio only, Flash memory based, Supporting OGG/FLAC, and with large capacity (32GB+)…Am I asking too much?

M.Fallas on July 17, 2008 9:19 PM

Imagine a model called: “Sansa SD/Clip”No built-in memory, but a SDHC slot.I’d love buying one and a couple of 32GB SDHCs.I still haven’t found what I’m looking for… a small DAP, Audio only, Flash memory based, Supporting OGG/FLAC, and with large capacity (32GB+)…Am I asking too much?

coldpower27 on August 4, 2008 9:21 PM

Cowon IAudio D2 is a high quality DAP that has SD/SDHC expansion slot and comes in 4/8/16 GB varieties, the only issue is the interface isn’t that great.It has the OGG and FLAC support you want as well.32GB of Flash memory on a single card is too expensive at this point were still looking at the $200 mark give or take.

Henning Godske on September 6, 2008 2:59 PM

If you look at this Wiki, you will see that SDHC can go to 2TB. It is just not a standard yet.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card

Dude on September 17, 2008 3:48 PM

Confirmed, the 32GB SDHC card works with the Cowon D2:http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820178212“Been waiting for 32GB SDHC card pricing to come down to earth. PNY has just landed. I’m using this with a Cowon D2 16GB MP3 player and so far it has worked flawlessly. In addition to the 16GB internal memory, I needed about 6-7GB more to have my entire music collection at my disposal. Now with this card, I have room for all my music PLUS every episode the Seinfeld. No more swapping between two 8GB cards (one for music and one for Seinfeld).”

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