SanDisk Sansa Clip+ Plus Review

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The Sansa Clip has been a favorite among many as a quick and cheap way to listen to digital music. It has been a player for beginners and enthusiasts alike with a straight forward user interface along with top notch sound quality many times being paired with headphones and amps 10 times its price. For these reasons we made the Clip the number one MP3 player for 2008.

Since the Sansa Clips was release we immediately started screaming for a Clip with a microSD card slot, sure the Fuze had the same sound quality and features but it didn’t have the compact size that many users appreciated about the Clip. SanDisk has responded to our requests in the second generation Clip dubbed the Sansa Clip+. In addition to adding the microSD card slot SanDisk has taking the time to improve the player all around rightfully giving it its second generation badge.

  • SanDisk Sansa Clip+ Specs
  • Size: 2.16 x 1.36 x 0.6 in.
  • Weight: .85 oz.
  • Colors: Black, Maroon, Blue
  • Capacities: 2GB, 4GB, 8GB
  • MSRP: $40, $50, $70
  • Supported Formats: MP3, WMA, WAV, FLAC, Ogg, Audible
  • Included Accessories: (2GB, 4GB, 8GB)
  • Battery Life: 15 hours
  • Features: Sleep Timer, FM/ FM Recording, Voice Recording, Music Subscription Capable

Design

The first generation Clip felt cheap, but most didn’t care because the cost was cheap. The Clip+ got a really nice overhaul in terms of build quality; the creaky plastic has been replaced by more robust matte black plastic as the main backing and clip. The face is similar to the original Clip- a clear plastic with colored backing.

One thing to note is that the clip on the back is now not removable. Though if were one to go clipless with the first Clip I supposed you could get crafty, break it off and file down the remaining nubs. This could be handy when pairing it with a headphone amp.

In addition to creating a sturdier player, attention was paid to improve the locations of the buttons. This was much needed since the placing of the volume controls and headphone jack was awkward on the original Clip in addition to the not-so-ideal slider style on/off/hold switch. The volume controls have been moved to the left side of the player now away from the headphone jack. The on/off/hold switch was replaced by a top on/off switch. Hold is now preformed as a long press of the home button.

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Screen

The two color yellow and blue OLED screen is the same as the screen on the original Clip. Brightness can be adjusted and is readable in direct sunlight. It might be a bit cramped but its readable and gets the job done.

Firmware

One of the great things about the Clip+ is that the firmware did not have to be reinvented. Short of a few tweaks the Clip+ uses the same stable firmware as the Clip. So this last year or so of feature requests and bug lists have not gone to waste. While there will inevitably be firmware updates in the future, you can expect a stable firmware from the start.

With that said, you will notice that this review will read similar to the first Clip review in terms of features and functionality.

Transferring Media

SanDisk gave us the best of all worlds when it comes to connection the Clip to your OS of choice. The Clip+ is set to automatically detect your OS’s preferred method, MTP or MSC, but will also allow you to manually select which mode you prefer. Both of these are drag and drop and each have their own advantages. For instance MTP is better for playlists and synching with media software and MSC is more versatile if you use several different OSes. If you have no idea what I’m talking about here, no worries just leave the setting on “auto”. The Clip+ is also certified in Windows 7 and uses Device Stage.

microSD Card

The biggest news is the addition of the card slot. Currently you can turn your 8GB Clip+ into a 24GB player with the addition of a 16GB microSD card. In the future when 32GB microSD cards are available you will be able to carry 40GB in a player the size of a matchbox.

You can put music on the card then put it in the player or you can load it from the player. The card will show up in your computer as a separate storage location. One of the nice features is that an icon next to the track will signify that it is stored on the card.

One thing that concerns many is the time it takes from the database to be refreshed when the card is inserted. If you are one to switch cards a lot it may be an issue since a full 16GB card may take around 2 min t
o refresh the database and be operational.

SlotRadio

SlotRadio is a format of microSD cards introduced by SanDisk. The SlotRadio card contains a thousand or so tracks which are played back in a preselected order by channel. You cannot select these tracks or make playlists out of them; it plays more like a radio would. I already covered this format extensively in the SlotRadio review if you want to learn more about it.

The thing that annoys me about the addition of SlotRadio support is that the main menu now has a “banner ad” for the SlotRadio feature. It is a main menu item in that when you click it, it gives you a URL to find out more information. Nice to make people aware of this format but for those who won’t ever use this feature it’s just clutter. SanDisk needs to make this menu item disappear until a SlotRadio card is inserted- just like they did with the Sansa Fuze.

User Interface

I bought many Clips for non tech friendly people and all of them have taken to the user interface without issues. It is intuitive and straight forward with a low learning curve even for the beginner. As you might have guessed, it’s the same exact UI as found on the v1 Clip with some minor but much needed menu organization, though I will mention that they have given the UI a feeling of motion by animating the transitions. This actually makes a big difference in the feel of the interface giving the users a better sense of where they are in the menu further reducing the learning curve.

Features

FM Radio & Recording

Reception is OK on the Clip plus, a little better than the original but still far from prefect. I could easily pick up all the stations around me but the further ones I could normally pick up with other players were not as clear. Picking up stations on the TV’s at the gym, however, worked well.

If you are interested in recording the radio, the Clip Plus will do that, recording in WAV format.

Voice Recording

Voice recording is also another feature of the Clip+ and is handy for recording lectures or voice notes. The mic is located on the back above the clip and does a decent job of picking up sound. This like the FM also records to a WAV format.

Audio Books / Podcasts

The Clip Plus just like the original Clip does a great job of handling audiobooks and podcasts. Under music these each have their own sections. Podcasts and audiobooks will remember your position on a per track basis so you can listen to several at a time without losing your place. Chapter support is also in place for Audible audiobook tracks. Speed can also be set on only the audiobooks at slow, normal, or fast.

Music & Media

Browsing Media

Browsing media is straight forward and similar to many MP3 players, but one thing that should be mentioned is the addition of folder browsing. This is a feature many have been campaigning for since the introduction of the first clip. The main menu allows you to browse by all, recently added, artists, album, song, genre, top rated, playlists, podcasts, audiobooks, recordings, and now folders. This option is accessible in both MTP and MSC mode and is split into two sub menus of internal and uSD memory. So for those who like to keep their music organized by folder, your feature is here.

ABC browsing needed: One thing I would really like to see is a way to quickly jump to parts of a list by letter, similar to what Creative or Sony does. This is very important since adding a microSD card will put you in the 24GB range and possibly 40GB in the future. I’m not entirely sure of the best method to approach this since the screen size and current UI provide limited options to bring up an on screen alphabet. One way this can be done is to use a long press on the center button. The long press there is already a short cut to add the track to the go list or to rate a song, so this would have to be another option which you might not want to replace with your current short cut, though it would fit nicely there since it could also be in the option menu. The other option, and I think this would be the best way to do it would be to bring up the alphabet list when a long press is executed on the forward button. It might be a bit hidden, but it would be very intuitive and quick to access.

Playlists

The Clip+ has a single “go list” where you can add tracks to a single list but cannot delete one or reorder them. Ultimately full playlist creation and manipulation would be ideal, but this is not a bad second option. Full playlist creation is something that is in the works and we may see it in future firmware updates.

Outside of the device you can create as many play lists as you like though your media player of choice or with a simple right click in MTP mode on Windows machines. If you are using MSC, playlists are still supported but require third party programs to create them. Check the Clip forums for details.

Audio

Sound Quality

Sound quality was the Clip 1’s forte, very straight forward and clean and one of my favorite in terms of sound quality. Comparing the original Clip to some of Cowon’s players it tended to be more analytical, more precise, less on the warm side. Not one being better than the other, but being more of a preference. The Clip+ has moved to a bit warmer signature closer to what you might find on the Cowon S9. In my opinion this is an improvement. Regardless to your preference you will find that the Clip Plus is one of the best sounding MP3 players on the market.

EQ

The Clip+ does have a 5 band EQ along with some presets, just like the original. While it’s not as tweakable as some of the more robust EQ it does still lend well to adjusting to suit your taste or headphones.

Replay gain

Somewhere in the process of updating the Clip v1’s firmware they added support for ReplayGain and this is present in the Clip+. This is a non-destructive normalization method where information on the tracks loudness is placed in the meta data. This means that all tracks will have the same volume and prevent clipping. Your files will have to have this information embedded in them at the time of ripping or some desktop media players may add this info.

Conclusion

The Clip+ is a very welcome update to the original with improved build quality, design, and UI. The big news however is the addition of the microSD slot. Being able to upgrade your capacity for cheap is a very appealing feature of the Clip+ especially in such a small form factor. The ability to have potentially 40GB of music in very small space is a minimalists dream. The great sound quality, transfer protocol, and folder browsing will very much appeal to the enthusiasts, but the Clip+ is still very well suited for the tech beginner. Even if you just spent a few hundred dollars on a top of the line MP3 player I recommend picking one of these up just for a backup or for use at the gym. With a price starting at $40 the Clip+ is a great value for tech noobs and digital veterans alike.

Purchase

You can find the Clip+ in many brick and mortar stores, but if you want to pick it up online, Amazon UK) is usually the best place to purchase. (May not be available just yet since it is so new.)




160 Comments

The DarkSide on August 31, 2009 8:26 AM

Excellent review!!!! Now I just need to head out but weeks end and get 1. Perfect little player for my needs.

Roger on August 31, 2009 8:48 AM

You don’t explicitly mention it, but thankfully the USB connector remains the standard mini-USB and not the proprietary nonsense from the Fuze.

C on August 31, 2009 11:18 AM

For me, the biggest problem of the Clip was the slightly slower playback for mp3s. Have they resolved that issue for the Clip+?

Vladimir on August 31, 2009 11:21 AM

Will file browsing come to the original Clip as well?

Zach on August 31, 2009 12:57 PM

Is the music on the Micro SD card integrated into the main library? Or does it treat it like the Creative Zen and you have to browse it separately? I hope it’s integrated.

lee on August 31, 2009 1:16 PM

@Zach, in the review its mentioned that its like the fuze where it integrates into the library so its all good :) .

Jack4L on August 31, 2009 1:19 PM

Well I’m sold.Although I think they made the Clip+ quite alot uglier then the origional clip, but that might just be me. Anyway if its built better then all is forgiven.

Mike on August 31, 2009 2:05 PM

A few additional notes:– The lit ring and lit ring indicators are gone with the Clip+.– The Clip+’s display is a trifle smaler than the original Clip’s. Odd that SanDisk did that.– Given the physical changes in the Clip+, new cases will be needed for it …

DaHarder on August 31, 2009 2:06 PM

Nice little update for the Clip and all, but… What’s with the lack of AAC support?

MarvintheMartian on August 31, 2009 2:10 PM

On the old Clip(and Fuze) I would have recommended against the Auto USB mode, as content added in MTP would not be visible in MSC, and vice versa, which can lead to confusion for the noobs. Those players were frankly better left in either MTP or MSC, whichever better suited the user’s needs.But it looked like I saw a MTP folder on the folder browse menu, so maybe this problem is no longer an issue?@DaHarder…on the SanDisk forums one of the devs said it was a licensing fee issue. Whether that is really the case, or a cop-out, I couldn’t say.

Grahm on August 31, 2009 2:11 PM

An AAC license costs 75 cents per player. Cost benefit probably wasnt worth it on such a low margin player.

Peter D. Lai on August 31, 2009 5:33 PM

Is there any sort of backlighting on or around the buttons like on the original Clip?Not a crucial feature (addition of microSDHC card slot is more worth it) but it’s something that I liked about the original, especially in the dark. :)

paulr on August 31, 2009 6:33 PM

Wow! I hadn’t heard of this before. Have you taken the new model apart yet? Is the internal battery the same size? Is the power consumption similar, when you are playing from the micro sdhc card? I’d be interested in a battery life test when playing from the card.Also a Rockbox port!!!!

pudsey456 on August 31, 2009 10:09 PM

Oh nice, folder browsing. FINALLY!

paulr on September 1, 2009 12:13 AM

Is the Plus a little bit thicker than the original Clip? Either just the box part, or the whole thing including the rear clip. I wonder if they change the clip design to make it thinner so they could fit the microsdhc card into the box.

joe on September 1, 2009 1:10 AM

Are you able to delete files directly on the device now?

Doug on September 1, 2009 2:28 AM

The clip+ also supports gapless playback:http://www.sandisk.com/media/311074/User%20Manual%20SANSA%28R%29%20CLIP+_UM.pdfI tried out my FLAC version of Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon, and it works well.

epithetless on September 1, 2009 4:34 AM

Great find, Doug! Do you have any LAME-encoded MP3s to test with? That’s where gapless playback really matters for me.

Andy on September 1, 2009 4:41 AM

I wish they sold these in New Zealand. The fact a small player with excellent sound quality and expandable memory is great. Battery life could be better though.

David Winarso on September 1, 2009 4:43 AM

I don’t know what you hear guys… but to me and some of my friends… we could hear that the original Clip sounds quite different than Fuze; and that is consistent through different phones/earphones that we tried (mylar one x3, UM3X, porta pro anniversary, HD25-1, etc..)…The original Clip sounds more powerfull/impactfull than Fuze. But Fuze sounds smoother than Clip… and especially on the high frequency, Fuze resolve better then original Clip.If the Clip+ now sounds warmer… might be it is made to sound closer to Fuze. (for the technical, economical, or whatsoever reasons…)

HulkSmashNow on September 1, 2009 2:30 PM

This is what I originally wanted, but had to go with the Fuze, which is still a damn fine player, but I just use it for music.To have a 20GB DAP the size of a matchbox is truly awesome.I should be getting mine towards the end of the week since the Best Buys here in Texas have been slow to get them in stock.

lee on September 1, 2009 2:48 PM

Im really torn between the fuze and the new clip, had the original 4gb silver clip but sold it as it wasnt enough however this microsd slot makes it worth while!.Now theres mixed reviews of the fuze, id like that player for the extra battery life and the fact i looks a bit better. Is the audio quality the same as the clip+/clip? Also does the mechanical wheel hve a 4 direction like the clip aswell as swivel? Reason being is that i generally change track while a player/phone is in my pocket so if it only swivels then that could be a downside.

Mike on September 1, 2009 11:14 PM

Yes to your questions.

aniym on September 2, 2009 2:00 AM

Hi, could you update the review at some point to give an indication of what battery life is like with a MicroSD card actively playing music? Thanks.Also, the original Clip wasn’t compatible with the Zenses scrobbling software. Would it be possible for you to test if this version is? I ask because your review states that it’s now possible to upload music through MTP mode, which I think means that the player keeps a playback history like the E200, Fuze and View series. Thanks.

vēer on September 2, 2009 8:15 AM

YES! YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!!

bluebren on September 2, 2009 8:31 AM

-There is no lighting on the buttons of any kind-Yes, you can delete songs directly- I tested it while actively playing one and it works-LAME mp3′s are very very close to gapless, but not quite there.Bothersome things I have discovered:-Hold is annoying. (Long version: every time you use it, it takes over 5 seconds to scroll through a message about how to unlock it again, dumps you back at the main menu for about 5 more seconds, then returns you to the Now Playing screen. You can’t get there any faster because there is no such option anywhere. Unlocking has a shorter delay, but it is still there, so if you try to, say, unlock and pause too quickly, you will be controlling the menu instead and, again, have to wait the five seconds for it to return you to the music controls. Also there is no indicator of whether hold is on or off at any moment.)-The album name never displays while the song is playing.-”Refreshing your media” took longer on my 8GB card than the 2 minutes claimed for a 16GB card.

thwood3 on September 2, 2009 2:52 PM

Meh on the battery life. The micro card will drain that little lion fast. Can’t have everything…

less on September 2, 2009 7:27 PM

So, is there going to be a fuze+, or a view+? That would be great.

ferd burfel on September 3, 2009 10:46 AM

A new Zune, a new Clip.Once again it looks like my back account is going to take a big hit.I like the power button instead of a slider. The slider is hard to use when it’s in a case. The Fuze has the same problem when it’s in one of the plastic “Crystal” cases.Here’s hoping Best Buy has a good stock in my area.

garth on September 3, 2009 12:28 PM

Will the Clip+ take microSDHC cards…? Trying to figure out if I should return it and get a microSD card instead…Thanks,Garth

Defaultluser on September 3, 2009 12:54 PM

I have a question: on my old Sansa e280, it rebuilt the library every time I booted it with an SD card inserted, even if no changes were made. Does the Clip+ still do this, or does it just refresh once after you make a change / switch the card?Also, can anyone tell me what the database song limit is in the current Clip+ firmware? I’d like to use all 24GB of the current available space, and would like to use all 40GB potential in the future, but if the number of songs in the database is limited, I can’t see it being worthwhile.

Andreas Ødegård on September 3, 2009 1:02 PM

@garth it does support microsdhc. As it says in the article, current max capacity 16GB with 32GB cards coming – microsd only goes to 2GB, SDHC 32.

garth on September 3, 2009 1:54 PM

Thanks, Andreas–what a relief! I love my Clip…now I just have to wait patiently while Amazon gets the new Clip+!

Defaultluser on September 3, 2009 2:03 PM

An additional comment: I agree with Con, now that I’ve read-up on the issue, the playback speed problem with 44 vs 48 KHz files would be a deal-breaker. This issue is still unresolved on the old Clip, has it been fixed on the new Clip+?

C (hcry4) on September 3, 2009 2:14 PM

The slow playback is gone. I tested several songs played simultaneously. It’s now about 1/4 sec fast per minute. Not noticeable.

Defaultluser on September 3, 2009 3:31 PM

Thanks C(hcry4), 1/4 second per-minute is much lower than the widely-reported %2 playback difference of the old clip.Now if someone can just answer my questions about the boot time with an unaltered MicroSDHC card, and let me know about the library (as long as it’s over 4000 songs, and then we can assume the upper limit is 8000 songs, I’ll be fine). If those come up positive, then I’ll jump on this baby.

less on September 3, 2009 7:40 PM

Guys, which player should I buy, fuze or transcend 860? They are almost the same. Last transcend I used, was 630, and it was superb.Any Chance ANYTHINGBUTIPOD would do a review of transcend 860?

Aroneo on September 3, 2009 11:26 PM

So FLAC is completely gapless, but LAME MP3 isn’t. I imagine it’s because the player needs to compute the gaps in the LAME MP3 codec.What about Ogg? Since it was designed to be gapless, I would hope it works better than MP3 on the Clip+. Anyone able to test out some gapless Ogg tracks?

Andy on September 4, 2009 1:49 AM

What does gapless mean? as im assuming theres no gap between a song? that would sound unnatural though.

bluebren on September 4, 2009 2:36 AM

Yeah, it doesn’t reload the library unless you’ve removed the card. And I don’t even have enough songs to test the other thing, but I can’t imagine that they would make the limit that low, knowing the expanded capacities it’ll be expected to handle. Gapless ogg worked perfectly in my test just now.

Peter on September 4, 2009 5:55 PM

Is the battery changeable by the user? If that’s not possible is it possible with a soldering iron to change the battery?

JasonNZL on September 5, 2009 5:12 AM

Bit of a shame the play buttons backlighting has gone,very handy at night.Either way i hope they sell these in New Zealand (the original versions have completely disappeared)..come on Sandisk!

Adam on September 6, 2009 12:15 AM

Can you play a podcast at different speeds like you can with the original Clip which had three speeds slow, normal, or fast. Sometimes I would play a podcast at fast speed even though it distorts the voice to a more high pitched sound but I wanted to go fast through a certain point of the podcast.

T3klOrD on September 6, 2009 11:58 AM

Looks nice. It’s between this and the D2+ currently for me. What makes this more attractive over the D2+ is the price of the unit but 32GB SDHC cards will be cheaper than microSDHC cards initially.

Shawn Low on September 7, 2009 2:43 AM

Anyone got one yet? Amazon hasn’t listed it.Nothing on ebay either.Anyone in the US want to help me buy one or two to ship over to Australia?Thanks!

bouc on September 7, 2009 6:30 PM

I can’t find this in the UK. Any help?I just decided this over the Creative Zen stone with speaker.

biscuitownz on September 7, 2009 9:13 PM

this looks like a durable player :D

bert000l on September 8, 2009 2:44 AM

Without ABC-browsing, the SD-card feature makes not that much sense to me. Although the Clip is very responsive, it is quite annoying to get to the middle of the alphabet in almost any browsing category.SanDisk needs to improve this – otherwise, 32GB on a tiny OLED-screen is a waste of potential.

bert000l on September 8, 2009 3:02 AM

Oh…forgot to say that I found the combination of power- and hold-switch to be quite handy and useful. It doesn’t make sense to me that you now have to hold the home-button for several seconds in order to put the Clip on “hold”.Try to be a little bit more critical, even with the clip.

Roger on September 8, 2009 7:15 AM

Someone needs to start selling these on ebay and shipping worldwide. In Australia and very interested in this player.

Seventeener on September 9, 2009 8:35 AM

Oh, why did they remove this big round hole on the backside? It is so handy to clip with this hole over a jacket’s button and be sure that the player never falls off! Otherwise, a great new product I’ve been waiting for!

fractalbit on September 9, 2009 9:28 PM

Folder browsing! YES!Now may i suggest how i imagine the “ABC…” list browsing?When you select, for example song listing, you go into a list that is divided in 2 columns. Right column is selected by default and has all the songs. Pressing up/down you browse the songs as it is now.Now, pressing the left arrow you go to the left column where the alphabet letters are. So pressing up/down you easily jump to songs starting with that letter. If you want to go to the previous menu you just press the left arrow again.And if this is a little confusing for beginners just make it disabled by default but give users the ability to enable it in the options.What do you think? I would love such an implementation!

Thomas on September 10, 2009 4:01 AM

I want to buy it too :-/I really hope someone on eBay will resell them.

Michael Retza on September 11, 2009 10:04 AM

What a pity, the keypad is not backlighted anymore, probably due to the space the card-slot needs.

Jeff on September 12, 2009 6:45 PM

I’m wondering how that card slot will keep moisture out of the player. The “older” clips are great for running because they can take sweat dripping on them really well, something the 2 shuffles I went through couldn’t do.

LO on September 15, 2009 2:59 PM

I really liked that ver. 1 HOLD would lock the player’s buttons when off…just the thing for throwing it in carry-on luggage. The PDF manual says the new HOLD only works when the player is *on*.Sigh.

rad on September 16, 2009 5:10 AM

i noticed Sansa Clip has quite noticeable “ticking” device-background noise in voice recordings, regular at roughly 2x per second.Not a big issue for most i believe, but it’s there :-( Anybody else noticed this, or better – can anyone test the Sansa Clip Plus?[simple "record silence under a pillow" test ;-) ]PS: my old iAudio5 has lots of noise in MP3-encoded recordings but WAVs are clean and clear… i know it’s a different price range, however – there’s a 3 year difference in those models! Cmon, designers!I only want a small, solid build/firmwared device that PLAYS MUSIC, RADIO and RECORDS, quality.I don’t need touch-screen-video-nonsense. 21st century… funny, isnt it…

topkop on September 22, 2009 5:39 PM

Hi, I just bought one and I noticed a thin black horizontal line going across the screen. Is that supposed to be normal?

clipso on September 23, 2009 12:49 AM

Has the pitch issue been fixed?

Mike on September 23, 2009 6:52 PM

No, the pitch issue has not been fixed and SanDisk today issued at its forums a statement that it will not be doing so.

wants a clip on September 23, 2009 8:42 PM

hi i know alot was said about the SDcards…but i would like to know if the 2GB/4GB Clip+ can support SDcards…cuz if it can…it wouldnt make an sense for me to buy an 8GB Clip+ when i can simply increase my capacity through an SDcard.

Dawn Kelley on September 24, 2009 8:59 PM

I honestly think it’s far uglier than the old clip and I liked the old “hold” system. All I really wanted was a slot. Ah well, I’ll proably still get it cause of the slot.

Don on September 25, 2009 1:45 PM

“What does gapless mean? as im assuming theres no gap between a song? that would sound unnatural though.”Gapless means no extra gap. If there ARE gaps between gaps on the CD, then you get the same gap playing the audio files. Some albums blend one track into the next with no gap.

Johan on September 27, 2009 10:36 AM

Halleluja for the folder browsing! This is a huge improvement (even if it used to be standard on the first mp3 players). Think I´m gonna get one of these for the gym.

gustaaavo on September 29, 2009 5:07 PM

I have one and love it! Just one question: why hasn´t it replaced the original Clip in the Editor’s Choice column?

dude on October 1, 2009 5:32 AM

Once I read that it has folder browsing I just thougt: “bought!”Thanks for the great review!

ashiiya on October 1, 2009 1:19 PM

I have to say, this is a genius little player ^^ it’s very compact, has the card slot, great audio quality AND a built-in clip. Can’t ask for more ^^I liked the design upgrades they did to this new Clip. The actual clip looks more durable and they finally fixed the placement of the headphones ^^

eiko on October 7, 2009 9:09 PM

I found the Clip+ while researching digital voice recorders with the capability of tuning into and recording off of FM broadcasts (like talks at large conventions, not the radio). Not many support FM tuning and recording. And most with this many GBs are much more expensive. Has anyone had experience with this type of recording ? Does anyone know if the SanDisk Sansa Clip+Plus 8GB would be a good thing for my recording and needs?

Lou3 on October 7, 2009 11:13 PM

I bought a 4GB Clip+ today to replace my broken Clip. So far I like it. I agree that the sound is a bit warmer (but still relatively analytical), and the overall build quality feels a little better. The display is a marked improvement with its scrolling info and folders option. I haven’t tried a microSD yet.

revmark on October 8, 2009 12:19 PM

Question about audiobook playback. I typically have more than one audiobook on the player at a time (mine and my son’s) and switch back and forth. If I store the multiple files for each audiobook in a playlist or folder (one for each book) will the clip remember which file is playing in addition to bookmarking the position in the playing file, if I switch back and forth?ThanksReverend Mark

StalePhish on October 21, 2009 2:09 PM

I really like this little MP3 player. I got the 1GB over a year and a half ago for $35 on NewEgg and it is still working fine. I upgraded the firmware this past summer because the lowest volume setting was still too loud for my quiet office environment and the patch gave more of a range.My only complaint is that it plays the tracks slightly faster than a normal 1:1 speed. I discovered this while participating in Improv Everywhere’s MP3 experiment with about 1600 other people and after about 15 minutes of one track we all started simultaneously, I had to pause for a few seconds so everyone else could catch up because I was noticeably ahead.

cristiano007 on October 23, 2009 9:38 AM

The speeed issue was solved months ago, you just have to update you firmware, look in the Clip forum here.

ACP1 on October 23, 2009 6:40 PM

To my ears the Clip+ sounds muddy and compressed compared to the original Clip i.e. when amped with the Mini3. The punch is missing from some songs along with the crisp highs, separation and clarity. Sorry just my SQ opinion. The Clip+ still sounds better than my Sony players and my Samsung P3.

martin.riches@ntlworld.com on October 26, 2009 1:07 PM

Please can someone tell me whether it is possible with the Clip plus, to make playlists from tracks on the card. Also can tracks on the card and the internal memory be mixed in playlists?Thank you.

jeff on October 28, 2009 9:07 PM

Is there any difference between the 2GB and the 8GB versions other than the memory size. It will cost me less to buy a 2GB clip plus and an 8GB memory card, as opposed to just buying the 8GB version directly.

silentstone on October 29, 2009 11:47 AM

@jeff: All recordings are saved to the internal memory, not the microSD card.

Caleb on October 30, 2009 8:32 PM

Battery life seems to be bad on this thing, not sure it’s just my unit or what, but I am averaging off about 7 hours with 192kbps MP3 files, stored in the 8GB microSDHC (not internal memory)

nototouchsrs on November 3, 2009 10:50 PM

1-do the sd cards drain the battery faster than the internal memory?2-how fast is the scrolling trough long lists of songs?3-how fast is the transfer of files from the pc?

Ann on November 4, 2009 10:02 AM

This is a great, very useful review. But you didn’t cover a crucial issue for audiobooks – can I go back to listen again to the last couple of sentences without the risk of being accidentally slammed back to the beginning of the book? How safe are the methods for rewinding and fast forwarding within a track, without accidentally skipping tracks?

Some Guy on November 6, 2009 3:25 AM

Oddly enough, I found myself missing the lighted main button as well…I’m also still peeved at how, even in MSC mode, Sandisk insists on dumping all those extra folders (podcasts, audiobooks, etc etc) on not just the internal memory, but ALSO the card! I really almost wish you could buy one of these with NO internal memory, pick a card, and then have it show up as a single device in Windows.

Mads on November 6, 2009 5:08 PM

I’m with the Reverend on this one:”If I store the multiple files for each audiobook in a playlist or folder (one for each book) will the clip remember which file is playing in addition to bookmarking the position in the playing file, if I switch back and forth?”If anybody knows, please speak up :)

ramsez on November 8, 2009 5:48 AM

kupoval som tento prehravac na http://www.mp3.sk/sandisk-sansa-clip-plus-2gb-fm-black-p-104522.html a som maximalne spokojny

MichaelB on November 17, 2009 11:16 AM

I often listen to long DJ Mixes and I find myself fast-forwarding many minute at a time. Does this player accelerate the FF the longer you hold the FF button? I noticed this to be a very handy feature in my Samsung player. I would love to switch to this one if it also has it.

ataribaby on November 17, 2009 5:00 PM

I’ve just got my Clip+ today, and I’m pleased and disappointed in equal measures. The more solid build, less clicky buttons, more detailed track info, folder browsing, etc. are great.However, compared with my regular Clip soundwise the Clip+ is not as clear in separation – I tend to agree with ACP1. I almost wish I didn’t have the two available to compare. The first Clip allows you to hear many more details in the music.Also the FM radio on the Clip+ has considerably worse reception. Hope these are teething troubles that can be ironed out.@MichaelB Yes the FF function does have acceleration like you want.

MichaelB on November 19, 2009 3:07 PM

ataribaby: thanks for the info on the FF function! appreciate it.

GreyBat on November 20, 2009 7:09 PM

I bought a Clip+ to play my music through the Aux input on my car audio system, and powered from the internal power take-off. Works great, but a couple of quibbles:1-Starting the car starts the player. Great. However, turning off the car does not stop the player. Unless manually powered off, it will keep playing (to nowhere, since the audio system is off) until the battery goes flat.2-I would like an option to keep the display on if connected to external power.3-”Refreshing your media” takes over 20 minutes with 16gb miniSD.4-It takes a very minor shock to start “Refreshing your media”, I presume because the contact with the external card is momentarily lost.

Barbara on November 24, 2009 4:00 PM

Is the absence of instructions on how to record via the FM radio on Sansa website manual an oversight by the company?

Helder on November 24, 2009 7:37 PM

I just bought one and I’m FRIGGIN’ AMAZED. The sound quality is simply excellent, the menus are as intuitive as can be, and I don’t miss I actually prefer this screen over the worthless ones on other cheap mp3/mp4/jpg players.I’m a bit worried about the 15h battery life, but I just started trying this baby out so i’ll have to see over the next days.Oh and GreyBat’s comment on the 20 minute refresh of a 16gb card and minor shocks triggering it is a bit scarry.Nonetheless, this is very low cost and high quality. It sounds beautifully and I personally like simple and directed, so I couldn’t be happier over buying it.Did I already say it sounds great? Once bought my ex-wife a previous gen nano. It doesn’t sound better than the clip+

burp on November 28, 2009 6:12 AM

The clip+ will remember the position in multiple audiobooks or podcasts. When you go to play one that you have already started listening to, it asks you if you want to resume from where you were. I listen to many audiobooks and podcasts all the time and this is the best implementation I have ever seen on a player. The ff and rew speeds up the longer you hold it down too. There is no way to just skip 5 seconds back straight away, which would be nice, but oh well, you can’t have everything! Great player. I’m super-happy, and trust me, I am not easy to please. I am the kind of guy who actually reads the whole instruction book and learns all the features. The only annoying thing I have found is that if the screen backlight times out, you have to press the volume buttons twice to change the volume, once to bring the screen back, and once to actually change the volume. Everything else works with just one press though.

stargazer on November 30, 2009 12:27 PM

Wonderful site, but an important (for high fidelity listeners) point has not been addressed. (I can’t understand why everyone wants HD video, yet settles for low definition music). My three sansa 200 series will absolutely NOT play anything but useless (to me) mp3. NO lossless, no images. Advertised as supporting WAV, which is why I got three, they turn out to only support WAV in the internal memory. I’ll never again waste money on a sansa product unless it is clearly stated that they support WAV (or some form of lossless) ON the micro sdhc card. I now have three micro cards with no use. I tried listening to mp3 at work. After about 6 hours of music with no detail, nuances, subtleties, clarity, or feeling of space, I was bored out of my mind. Just “beat” and bass and mush.The refresh rate of the micro sdhc card probably depends on the card class. Class 2 is slow, class 6 is fast, class 10 is lighning. Speed will show when loading from the PC if sansa can’t use the speed itself.

stargazer on November 30, 2009 7:45 PM

Whoops, I meant it will not play anything but mp3 from the expansion card.Calling it an expansion card is misleading, it should be called an mp3 only expansion card.I sound too negative, I loved my e-250 so much I got another for my wife and another for a spare because I couldn’t live without. Most of the weight must be battery, they never die. And solid as a rock. I was disappointed when I found the micro sd card only worked with mp3.I’d like to try a Cowon d2+ but am afraid of having the same problem.

Andreas Ødegård on December 1, 2009 3:52 AM

@stargazer: I fail to see what your comments about the E200 has to do with a clip+ review. The clip+ can play flac just fine from the microSD card, I just tried.

uqk on December 4, 2009 11:19 AM

next….clip++, add LOD plz :)

Wish Clip+ could be bought in Singapore! on December 14, 2009 3:59 AM

I have 3 questions I’d like to have answered as soon as possible please.1. I would like to switch to my own earphones when I get the Clip+ so I’d like to know if the earphones plug is a 3.5mm one?2. Are ANY USB chargers compatible with the Clip+? Or must I use a USB charger by Sandisk only (if there is such a product)?3. Is there any other players that anyone would recommend for approx $100+/- that is about the size of the Clip+, good/decent sound quality, durable and can be bought in Singapore?Thank you very much for your help!!

Jessie B on December 15, 2009 12:37 AM

Does anyone know if the clip+ uses the same USB, car, and wall charger as the clip?

Dionamuh on December 15, 2009 6:05 AM

@Wish Clip+ could be bought in Singapore!1. Yes, it is 3,5mm plug.2. Almost all USB chargers (with mini USB plug) are compatible. I use a Creative ZEN power adapter.3. No. :P I’m still madly in love with my 2GB Clip after using it for almost two years now. I’ve been meaning to get an 8GB one, but I’ll now definitely go for the Clip+. Once it comes out in The Nederlands… Actually, I’d like to get all different colours and sizes, start a Clip collection!

Wish Clip+ could be bought in Singapore! on December 15, 2009 8:57 AM

Dionamuh, thank you very much for the information and quick reply!

ACP1 on December 17, 2009 5:55 PM

Again with regards the SQ this is the great little player. I recommend using the Klipsch S3 ear buds with… good combination.

nintendo dsi r4 on December 18, 2009 11:23 PM

The SanDisk Sansa Clip+ could stand to have better battery life and support for AAC; the monochrome display is small and may be hard for some to read.

jl on December 22, 2009 8:44 AM

@ Wish Clip+ could be bought in Singapore!there are actually people from hwz and vr-zone who are selling the clip+ :D

Philippe on December 23, 2009 3:19 AM

I just bought the new sensa clip cause the review convinceed me. One thing has to be add. The start of this player is 5X faster than with the original clip and PC transfer is also a lot (a lot!) more quicker than earlier.As I have a sensa clip, an ipod classic, Ipod touch and a old but cool creative zen I have to say that this one is the perfect combinaison of them all. A definitive winner at a ridiculous price !!!

SouthernYankeeGirl on December 27, 2009 7:33 PM

My husband just bought me one for Christmas. I absolutely LOVE this little thing. I am so impatient, and hate reading instructions, but this is as easy to use as they come.

Travis on December 31, 2009 4:14 PM

Are the chargers for the Clip and Clip Plus the same? Can I use an old Clip charger on the new Clip Plus?

Travis on December 31, 2009 4:18 PM

Sorry, just read the post a few up from mine, and it answered my question beautifully.

sansauser on January 3, 2010 5:16 PM

I had a Sansa Clip (the original model, a great product) for about a year, it was stolen at my gym locker room. I went to get a replacement and bought the Clip+I have been using it for a couple months and by now have formed an opinon: its pure garbage! Here’s why:1. This is a device one carries on their person, yet it does not have a hold button! and its keypad is very sensitive, so everytime it brushes against my clothes it skips, pauses, etc. The original Clip had a hold button; clearly the product manager responsible for the Clip+ at SanDisk has no clue as to how such a device might be used. SanDisk must have fired the person responsible for the original one.2. Its clip does not clip! the design is wrong so it does not grab to your clothes; also, the spring is too weak. See above comment regarding the product person.3. It has a useless ‘card’ slot. How would be running around looking for a card with pre-loaded music, when they can get their music (legally) online and copy it to the device. Keep in mind in order to recharge the Clip you have to connect it to a computer using the supplied USB cable; as a computer user you surely know how to copy music to another device.4. Cheap looking industrial design (In contrast to the pretty good looking original Clip) Deinitely could use to $ spent on the useless card slot to improve its looks.5. Battery life stinks! I barely get 5 hours out of it.All in all, I guess the original Sansa Clip was a SanDisk design fluke: they actually got it right. SanDisk should stick with what it knows how to do: making highly expensive memory chips.

BlueC on January 3, 2010 6:12 PM

@sansauser -1) Hold is now preformed as a long press of the home button. Try reading the review or instruction manual.2) Not tried it.3) The card slot expands the available memory to 24GB (or soon 40GB) so it is far from useless. It is not just for pre-loaded cards. Also, you don’t need to connect it to a computer to recharge it at all. You just need a USB power adapter (about $5)4) That is subjective. Although it is sad that they lost the backlit buttons.

Ralphzilla on January 4, 2010 7:50 PM

I have the 4GB model.> Doesn’t look like you can EQ the radio.> iTunes sucks (we all know that. Is there a way to convert 4a to FLAC somewhat painlessly?> I like the standard USB micro connection – unlike some players with custom connectors.> Price/performance is very good.

Jessie B on January 5, 2010 11:56 AM

@BlueC – I was wondering where can I find a wall charger for the clip plus?

hegwah on January 12, 2010 12:39 AM

Why can you enter the time and date but can’t look at it again apart from going back into setting to where you first entered it ?

Jessie B on January 13, 2010 10:40 AM

@Andreas ØdegårdThank you

Scott on January 18, 2010 4:27 PM

I just got this guy, it is a nice little player. The UI is a little confusing at first and the printed documentation is non-existant, but after about 5 minutes of mashing buttons I understood the controls and all was good. They main thing that got me looking at this, other than my Creative Muvo 100 drying, was the ability to just move songs over without having to go through or install any software.

Chris on January 25, 2010 9:57 AM

Got one for Christmas. Used approx’ 4 hours. Put away for two weeks, looked again. Dead!Support took 7days+ to understand ‘it wont turn on or charge’, then agreed it was a RIP for replacement.However they said I must send it (at my own risk & expense) to a Czech Republic service centre (I’m UK based).Fortunately, the supplier Amazon) were far more responsive. I only started with Sandisk support in case there was a fix to get it working.Not impressed. Will look elsewhere, now I know better.

Henrik on February 19, 2010 10:00 AM

Is it possible to scrobble from a SanDisk Sansa Clip+?

psxgamer on February 22, 2010 7:53 AM

I just buyed a Sansa Clip+ with 8 gigs of memory. Today I received a 8 gig memory card to my Clip+.I was just wondering, isn’t there any way to make Windows 7 and Windows Media Player or Winamp to see the internal memory and the memory card as a one memory slot? I mean, it’s pretty damn stupid that I can’t just synchronize all my music to my player with it’s ~16 gigabytes of memory. Instead I have to first fulfill the internal memory and then start synchronizing the memory card memory.Is there no workaround this little annoyance?

Orion 3 on March 3, 2010 4:16 PM

Had a Creative Zen. Great player but had freezing probs and finally died altogether. Based on ABI review bought Clip 4GB. Loved it so much got a 2GB for my 9 yr old son. Decided to upgrade to Clip+ 8GB because of SD slot. Use a 16GB micro card. When the card is inserted and it needs to rebuild the data it takes nearly 20 min. May be due to card speed. I paid $60 for the player and $40 for a 16GB card. Still worth it to have 24GB player basically the size a matchbook and great sound quality to boot. It would be nice if the internal memory and the card were viewed as one contiguous memory. However that may be impossible. At least the external mem is integrated unlike the Zen. Go playlists can include songs from both internal and external mem. However, in my experience, downloaded playlists won’t check the other memory to see if the song is already loaded. So if you download a playlist to internal mem with songs already loaded on internal mem and some on external mem it doesn’t “see” the ones on external mem and will load them on internal mem. and vice versus. This flat out sux but I don’t know if it is possible for Sansa to correct this. It would also be nice to be able to rename and save Go playlists on the player. Did like the looks of the Clip vs Clip+ as well as the detachability of the clip on the Clip but those are miniscule items. I have a great sounding 24GB player for $100 the size of a matchbook. I didn’t buy it to be pretty.

Orion 3 on March 5, 2010 1:18 PM

The review mentions that you can add songs to the Go playlist but not delete individual songs. This is incorrect. In the System settings there are two options for a Press and Hold settings. One is Add Songs to Go playlist. It also will remove songs from the Go playlist. If your Press and Hold is set to Add Songs to Go list start playing your Go playlist. If you want to remove a song you press and hold the center button and it will remove the song from the Go playlist. Press and hold again and it will add it back. No you can’t rearrange songs and you cannot save and rename the playlist which would be really nice due to the limitations I mentioned in a previous posting about downloaded playlists. Not being able to rearrange songs is not that big an issue for me as I typically use Shuffle On with my playlists.

Cantor on March 5, 2010 7:25 PM

Can’t scan Clip+ with any standard anti-virus program, unlike other MP3 players or USB storage devices that I’ve owned.Hidden 2nd Partition keeps secrets & blocks probes.Prefer to routinely scan any memory device that gets connected to my Windows XP PC… especially after I’ve loaned my Clip+ to friends.Any hints on how one might virus-scan a Clip+ ??

josey on March 7, 2010 10:34 PM

Great review, and comments!Can’t figure out how to take a playlist from WM player and get the clip to play it in the playlists order. Seems I can only play songs by artist, album, or in alphabetical order. Hope I’m just a dope and it’s easy to find.Thanks!

Orion 3 on March 11, 2010 10:09 AM

joseyTry going to the Sansa support site Clip+ Forum. Seems like I recall a thread about ordering tracks in a playlist.

jennifer on March 13, 2010 3:45 AM

Hi! I’m planning to buy sansa clip plus.. BUT I am still unsure of it’s quality..Just want to ask, how long would it take for it’s battery to be fully charged and also, will it stay as long as 2 years with proper care??

Schnäppchen on March 14, 2010 9:46 AM

Best Review in Web. Congratz! ;)

Malcolm on March 14, 2010 3:11 PM

I disagree with the review in one area-build quality evaluation, which I find sub-par and unacceptable. I bought a Clip+ and returned it the following day. Why? Unacceptable build quality; specifically, it looked to me that there would be problems with the earphone jack and microSD slot after a few months of use (there is no reinforcement or support between them and the case). I replaced the Clip+ with a Sansa Fuze, and the build quality, in my opinion, is far superior.

taylor on March 22, 2010 2:42 PM

i’m having a givaway contest for a Sansa Clip Plus. watch my youtube video to find out how to win!www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJmUJuZp3H8

jen on April 1, 2010 2:21 AM

which is better as a whole? disregard the video playback quality. sandisk sansa clip plus, sandisk sansa fuze, philips gogear spark or creative ez300 mozaic? i’m very confused on what to buy. Just want to have a good sounding mp3..

Winifred on April 4, 2010 6:48 PM

Thanks for the review. I’m ready to move from my iPod Nano. Just not enough space and you can’t delete anything from the iPod. So inflexible and so overpriced.

MDJ on April 10, 2010 9:56 PM

Will the Sansa Clip+ bookmark audiobooks from other sources besides Audible? Has anyone some experience with this issue? I use Overdrive, Netlibrary and Kitabe. I would like to know this since I am considering this player and the Cowon S9 which is more expensive.Thanks

LJR on April 12, 2010 4:21 PM

The microSDH card and Clip are better than a paperwad and rubber band if you don’t keep your finger in front of the card when the latch releases! I sent mine thirty feet across the room. Zoom! Whiz!Clip+ w/ full charge and 4GB auxiliary microSD card and no headphones attached played 11 hours before croaking. Battery indicator went from 1/3rd full to empty – nothing in between.Price of 2GB unit went from $27 to $37 overnight on Amazon. Ouch. So far the price on the 4gb unit isn’t rocketing but you may want to buy one soon if you’re on the fence.

NewClip+User on April 13, 2010 9:01 AM

If you´re capable of installing Rockbox then you should see that the battery life is extended.This is a result of better codec handling by the Rockbox devs compared to Sansa.Rockbox and Clip+ are being actively developed at the moment and whilst not complete is certainly usable.

David on April 25, 2010 11:35 PM

@Malcolm*Perceived* sub-par build quality. You didn’t give it a chance to fail. I’ve used my clip+ in the gym for nearly a year now and experienced no problems whatsoever. IMO, unless the Fuze had something else you were interested in, you just wasted $20.

Dan on May 4, 2010 6:07 PM

Thanks for the great review. I’ve been trying to find a replacement for my old Sandisk sansa and was thinking about switching to a cheaper phillips product but after reading this post, I think i’ll go with the sansa clip+.

tintin on May 9, 2010 4:43 AM

Not happy wit this device! Had it for 6 months and just died on me. The clip broke after a few months.Sound is rather good, but I hated the “refresh” that even started, without any changes made. never a sandisc for me again!

hh00010 on May 21, 2010 7:38 PM

Its an ok player EXCEPT the battery life.It claims 15 hours which is pretty short. I managed to get 6 today, on a low volume, with no µSD card.Would not recommend

Josh on May 29, 2010 11:09 AM

anybody know if you can delete songs right off player without having it connected to computer?

Matthias Breuer on September 8, 2010 3:02 PM

Seriously, why would anyone get a PMP as ugly as this thing, if you could get an iPod or a Walkman, which actually look nice…not flaming here, but if you clip something anywhere on your body, shouldn’t you care a little bit about what it looks like?

Sansa Enthusiast on September 17, 2010 11:42 PM

Matthias,

I think it is a perfectly good looking player, just picked one up for myself today and really admiring the quality. Not to mention it is not that much bigger than the iPod shuffle and can be hidden if you so desire. Plus people like myself pick the Sansa product for quality of sound not exactly because we thing it is an accessory to what we are wearing, in the gym or out.

Nolan Christensen on September 19, 2010 9:18 PM

Josh, yes you can, i got mine a few days ago at the mall.
opened it up at hot topic with scissors, took my microsdcard out of my phone, stuck it in my new Clip+. hit the on button it turns on, syncs media, and i could listen to it. RIGHT OUT OF THE FREAKING BOX. i was pumped. but yeah while youre playing a song hit the select button a little menu comes up and one of the options is delete song. so yes, it does.
and matthias it all depends on who you are if youre obsessed with your image then you should spend more time in front of the mirror and less listening to music- but i clip mine onto my front pocket, it looks just fine, its really compact and awesome. i think somebody could swallow it if they tried haha but yeah anybody reading this get it its awesome and a 8GB microsd from radioshack for $22 adds. DO IT

Lorraine on September 22, 2010 4:38 PM

Got the Sansa clip + as a birthday gift. LOVING IT !!! I have had the regular Sansa clip for 2 years , still works fine !!! it even fell in the toilet once ( while cleaning ) and nothing happened to it ! a good good player. The Sansa clip plus is even better because of the following new features :
1) the memory slot card ! ( i got a 4 GB card , will put my music on it ) and the internal memory of 8 GB will be used for recording lectures in college ! ( the old sansa clip recorded really well even when i was sitting in the back of the class room !)
2) folder browsing !!! been waiting for this a long time ! no need to use windows media player , syncronization lists etc…. i just drag-drop files …. ( i like folder browsing)

p.s. for those of you who like HIGH VOLUME … if you set the mp3 to the Europian region,then the mp3 volume settings will be LOW … ( cause of restrictions of the Europians on sound levels ) and the menue option ” VOLUME > HIGH VOLUME ” that used to be in the old Sansa clip version will be gone…
TO FIX THIS :
( change the region settings to “the rest of the world ” – in my case i am from israel , so i am not lying to my sweet mp3 gadget :) )
Settings >> System Settings >> ResetFactorySettings>>
>> yes >> English >> Rest of the world

now go to :
Settings >> System Settings >>
Volume >> HIGH

I wrote all this cause at first i selected Europian region ( i didnt think the mp3 should care where i live hehe ) and when i heard the low volume i was sad … then i put 2 and 2 together and fixed it :)

in short GREAT player , small , compact , durable , good volume , good recording quality , excellent for students in colleges !!!!

ps. great review thanks !

Kakynologyst on September 29, 2010 9:49 AM

Anyone who has recorded any voice recording mind sharing a lecture file here?

Would like to test hear the sample.

Rohith Anur on September 30, 2010 2:58 AM

Could anybody comment on the Battery Back up??? Reviews claim it lasts for 15Hrs; mine hardly lasts for an hour Max. My Clip+ is just a month Old.

Adam Logan on December 22, 2010 12:35 PM

I’m not seeing anywhere that cue sheets are supported with sandisk firmware. Can someone confirm whether this does or does not support cue sheets? I know about rockbox but the build is not mature enough from what I understand.

I drool at the idea of only whole flac albums w/ cue, make it easy as pie navigating on this tiny thing. Have all albums in one folder. Simple naming convention:

Artist – Album Title

john on December 24, 2010 9:10 PM

The clip+ does have one retarded feature: THERE IS NO STOP PLAYING BUTTON.

john on December 24, 2010 9:11 PM

The clip+ does have one retarded feature: THERE IS NO STOP PLAYING BUTTON. Even if you turn it off, when you turn it on, it picks up playing where you left it.

lord_fader_dB on December 28, 2010 12:45 AM

Dear jhon , the 90% of the mp3 players do NOT have a stop button the pause DOES stop TOO!!! and also have the resume funtion set ON by default, so if you call “retarded feature” that ,1) so should learn just learn before,how most of the mp3 players are.
2)Go buy a obsolete cassete player or a discman to “enjoy” dedicated stop key
For those asking about gaples and battery lifetime:
Gapples is PERFECT if you add rockbox.org firmware I do not recomend sandisk’s official firmware updated because they do worse FM reception.I also got many improvements adding rockbox to the clip+
Baterry lifetime:About 8-10 hours at 80% volume and >192 vbrmp3 files and a 16GB microsd card (drains more than internal memory)
Y also own a 32gb black cowon s9 and many other players and i pnly can can that only the cowon u5 sounds as clear as the clip+

MH on January 21, 2011 12:10 AM

Funny to read comments from those moaning about how the Clip+ looks, or how it’s built could be better. Go buy a Crapple if you are that fussy. This is far from a high end player, doesn’t try to be one, is extremely cheap, but even so, what a music player it is. The Clip+ sounds better, plays more formats, and you can increase the 8GB model memory to 40GB!!!. Personally I think this is an excellent little unit, considering what it cost, and after researching before purchasing it is what I expected, and more. With Rockbox installed, there are an unbelievable amount of options and control available to the user. Sansa’s firmware pales massively in comparison, but even so, you can still dual boot if you require (hold LEFT when turning player on to run original firmware)… Excellent review by the way, have my player about 9 months now, volume is still nice and loud, battery has improved with the Rockbox installed, and all the new little features, games and apps that brings help entertain further : )

METAL on January 23, 2011 1:32 PM

Hi! My old iAudio U2 died a few days ago and I’m seriously thinking of buying a Sansa Clip+ to replace my old PMP. I have a few questions though. What monitors where used in the review? If I buy the Clip+, it will be combined with a set of Shure SE530.

How is the sound quality and sound character compared to the old iAudio U2, or some other warm-sounding Cowon player? I loved the warm sound of the U2, even with flat EQ and and BBE e t c turned off, and kind of disliked the “cold”, “analythical” sound of the D2.

I’m trying to figure out whether I will be satisfied with the Clip+ and Shure SE530-combo or not after using an iAudio U2 for almost 10 years …

Thanks, and sorry if my english isn’t perfect. :)

LUIS on January 28, 2011 1:36 AM

Nice little player while it lasted, unfortunately this player are design to last for less than a year, good bye sandisk!!!

Paul Moth on February 28, 2011 5:10 PM

Although the box advertises Win XP compatibility , this is only true with the Windows Media Center updated to v.10 or 11. By default, the device will not be recognized unless the computer is updated as above. The device does *not* appear as a drive in default mode. Not tested in MMP mode.

Martin Sägmüller on February 28, 2011 11:27 PM

The Clip+ works in MSC mode with any USB-capable operating system right out of the box. It only needs drivers for MTP mode. Maybe its infamous useless “auto” mode messed things up for you.

Kim Ake on March 8, 2011 3:05 PM

I bought one used, seems to be a great little device, but it fell to the floor and the power button broke. The switch detached from the PCB, and made the player suddenly much less useful…

Dave on March 11, 2011 3:02 PM

So I just got a new 4GB Clip+ and added a 16GB microSD card. I (perhaps foolishly) put Rockbox on it before I used the regular Sansa firmware. I’m doing pretty good getting up to speed on everything but I’m getting absolutely killed by the “Refreshing your Media”. I dock my Sansa in MTC mode and everytime I remove it, it immediately goes into “Refreshing your media” for over 30 mins. I’ve tried cleaning up my library tags, but still seem to have this issue. Am I doing something wrong? Do I have a defective unit?

Cirrus1500 on March 11, 2011 6:20 PM

Dave,
If you don’t need to sync your clip+ with WMP, you can put the player at MSC mode. If you do not add files to the storage, there should be no refreshing when you turn it on.

KPK on March 16, 2011 1:00 PM

Any suggestions for a fine headphone to use with the clip+? I want to have a bit more bass compared to what the original earphones do.

Brucer on March 19, 2011 4:05 PM

Folks, you’re spending money based on marketing! If you don’t need the micro sd capability, the original Sansa Clip (round features) outperforms the newer Sansa Clip+ (square features). Even the tech at Sandisk admitted that the redesign compromised the FM receiver (was really good, now horrible) and left out features. EQ is now hidden deep in the menus and only applies to music. On the original, it is easy to get to and can be applied to voice, audiobooks and music (good for cleaning up poor quality book recordings). Neither model lets you apply EQ to FM, tho if you record FM, then you can apply EQ!? (Orig model only). Slicker display on the + model for those sucked in by marketing, but not the flexible performance of the earlier model. Yes, they’re still available, and at the same price, even when used! Somebody figured this out.

Martin Sägmüller on March 19, 2011 8:52 PM

Brucer, a lot of what you wrote is complete nonsense.
Both Clip variants have the same 128×64 1bit OLED display. The EQ is not “hidden deep”, it’s just one click more from the main menu on the Clip+ – and it’s of course in the exact same position on both players via the context menu. EQ also works with audiobooks and podcasts on the Clip+. I don’t know anything about the FM radio, I never use it. You might check your facts before you spread so much misinformation.

santaclauslives on April 16, 2011 11:32 PM

Excellent and tough device. I sent it through one load in my washing machine (accidentally of course) but it still works fine after letting it dry.
Amazing piece of equipment!

Zach J on May 3, 2011 2:31 PM

I have heard there is an issue with charging and playing the clip+ (and other sansa devices) at the same time. Does anyone know if this was resolved?

Martin Sägmüller on May 3, 2011 9:44 PM

No, there is no issue. Same as 99.9% of all available players, the Clip+ cannot be used for music playback when it’s connected to a computer – but connected to an USB wall charger it can be used just fine.

bluepiranha on June 9, 2011 9:41 AM

The Clip+ is such a great little player…however I’ve had to replace mine due to water/sweat damage. I used mine one too many times while jogging in the heat of the tropical country I come from and it just froze. Uh-oh. Not even three days in a bed of rice was enough to dry the thing out; it was dead. It was such a shame because it otherwise worked so well for the job.

These days I use Sony’s W252 Walkman for listening to music while running. Although more robust and water-resistant, the W252 has comparatively crude controls – expected, as it’s a screenless player – and lacks fast-forward/rewind functionality. The Clip+ is better, then, for podcasts and audiobooks.

If you do use the Clip+ for gym duty, consider wrapping it in a Ziploc bag or putting it in your waist pocket (and not on your shirt collar), so as to avoid water/sweat damage.

satish on June 30, 2011 10:39 AM

Hi can any one suggest me for which one to go for (clip+ or sony ericssion zylo).
i know i am not referring to one kind(mp3 player and a music phone) but i personally like sony walkman phones for the bass. but i borrowed clip+ once from a friend and the audio was clear and good.i already have senhiesser HD 202 which i use with mu ipod video . i am planning to go for sony xb21ex earphones for the bass. so which one would be better with these(clip+ or zylo)

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