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lebellium 06-25-2011 07:41 AM

Galaxy S Wifi 4.0/5.0 Sound Quality
 
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Here is a new thread to talk about sound quality of these devices exclusively.

I have not tested it yet but I will for sure. I'm waiting for Samsung to give me the devices^^

Well I open this thread 'cause I found some audio tests made by the FNAC labs (one of the largest French entertainment retail chain, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnac )

Results are not very good as you can see on the picture below:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...6&d=1309005635

Distorsion : 11.5/20
Signal-to-noise ratio: 4/20
Crosstalk : 6/20


Source: http://multimedia.fnac.com/multimedi...e_bassedef.pdf (several mp3 players and headphones tested if you are interested)

Note:
-they sometimes test product samples with different hardware from the mass production version
-a product may have bad measurements but sound very good to ears.

zuko 06-25-2011 05:09 PM

Yes, the only reason that I bought yp-gb70 is SoundAlive.

It sounds pretty good to ears, therefore, very competitive to any other devices.


and another thing, people here should notice that for galaxy player, battery is removable.

dfkt 06-25-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lebellium (Post 560434)
Distorsion : 11.5/20
Signal-to-noise ratio: 4/20
Crosstalk : 6/20

What exactly should that ridiculous garbage mean?

The weather here today was a 7/10, and my breakfast was a 25/30.

lebellium 06-25-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 560543)
What exactly should that ridiculous garbage mean?

The weather here today was a 7/10, and my breakfast was a 25/30.

lol your breakfast seemed to be very good! :D
Well don't expect too much from an entertainment retail chain, it's as if MediaMarkt started to test devices...
That said, the FNAC has had a real labs for years now with special devices to test mp3 players but it's hard to know much about this stuff, there is only this picture available:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...1&d=1309040965

The problem is that their guide is made for the general public so they decided not to give more details about their measurements.
With those marks you can compare one player with another one in the guide but you cannot know more than that. It's a pity they don't better use their professional testing stuff

dfkt 06-25-2011 05:37 PM

Yeah, that's completely ridiculous. You don't hear any distortion (meaning, THD or IMD) on modern players, it's simply not audible. Same goes for SNR or crosstalk. You. Do. Not. Hear. It. If you hear it, you would know.

That's some of the worst drivel I heard in a long time. Whatever those FNAC retards do, they better look for a more meaningful endeavor than presenting their "scientific" results in that way.

No matter if it's meant for the "general public" or for an audio engineer, their "results" mean less than nothing. They're completely meaningless.

lebellium 06-25-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 560551)
No matter if it's meant for the "general public" or for an audio engineer, their "results" mean less than nothing. They're completely meaningless.

That's why their guides have a pretty bad reputation among the enthusiasts :D

They shouldn't believe their 'scientist' tests are more reliable than our ears

dfkt 06-25-2011 06:00 PM

It could be meaningful, if they for example said that the total harmonic distortion of a player is less than 0.003% THD. Or if they say that the crosstalk is less than 60dB. But them stating that "distortion" is "11.5/20" is the equivalent of me stating that I like the color green better than the color pink. I'm sure they have meaningful measurements, what with all that fancy gear in that publicity shot you posted - but then the numbers and letters you posted mean less than shit.

Then again, as I already said - no modern player has any issues at all, as far as such measurements go - they're all basically perfect, as far as human ears go. Thus, their measurements are useless to begin with. (Unless you talk about crap like Hifiman and such).

chotto 06-25-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 560543)
What exactly should that ridiculous garbage mean?

The weather here today was a 7/10, and my breakfast was a 25/30.


More info on breakfast pls. kthnx.

Back on topic: Sound is the reason I stick with Samsung. Coupled with a pair of top-quality IEs, it'll be amazing (I hope)!

dfkt 06-25-2011 06:07 PM

Any average player will be the same with "top quality IEMs", Samsung is the same as any other reputable company in that aspect.

chotto 06-25-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 560562)
Any average player will be the same with "top quality IEMs", Samsung is the same as any other reputable company in that aspect.

I beg to differ...

And you still didn't give further info on your breakfast.

dfkt 06-25-2011 06:24 PM

What do you beg to differ with? Have you heard the majority of available players, or the majority of IEMs?

chotto 06-25-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dfkt (Post 560569)
What do you beg to differ with? Have you heard the majority of available players, or the majority of IEMs?


The fact that a good pair of IEs will automatically make audio, good. It does not. It will 'improve it' but only so far as the EQ or build of the player goes. You can have Mordant-Short speakers, but a poor tape recording on a 1970s tape deck is not going to sound any good on them.

And no review on your breakfast, so this debate is over.

dfkt 06-25-2011 06:37 PM

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

sandro87 06-25-2011 08:55 PM

Explain me why they limited* AAC files up to 128kbit.


*are can they even do that? if I use a different music player app?

gadg17 06-26-2011 06:40 AM

This article is three years old but the principle is very relevant here.

lebellium 06-26-2011 06:56 AM

@dfkt: I just found that: http://goldenears.net/board/index.ph...nt_srl=1324183

It's in Korean and I've never really understood all these measurements but as you're familiar with it, I'm sure it may interest you :)

BMNB1tch 06-29-2011 06:32 AM

Well my galaxy s wifi 4.0's sound quality is good and compared to my friend's ipod touch it's better (we used the same files). It also has sound alive and its very loud at maximum way louder than a ipod touch.

bigl 07-04-2011 12:08 PM

Anyone know if this device use the same Wolfson WM8994 chip found in Galaxy S devices like I9000, T959, and I897?
People said it sounds great if you use it with Voodoo Sound.

lebellium 07-04-2011 12:18 PM

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=64069

bigl 07-04-2011 01:18 PM

Thank you lebellium for the chart.

Hopefully somebody can port supercurio's Voodoo Sound for this device since it use the same WM8994 CODEC. Unless Samsung actually properly take advantage of the chipset and correctly coded the driver.


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