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Old 08-21-2011, 08:46 AM
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Firstly forgive me if I transgress any of the rules of your site. I am new to this.
I have a newly purchased Samsung YP_Q3, firmware 1.37 ( released April 2011). The Kies software is version 1.53.
My problem is that there appears to be a track limit of 1000 songs whereas the specifications in the Manual state that 3000 are allowed.
I used Kies to transfer ~1200 songs but many of them are missing from the Q3 song list. Windows Explorer shows them to be present in the Q3 memory and I can play them from the Q3 using the Media Player. If I delete some tracks from the Q3 and reload some of those which are apparently missing then they are now present but only up to a total of 1000. All of these tracks have been previously transferred to a YP_K3 without problem What am I doing wrong? At present I can apparently only use less than 50% of the memory available?
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:39 AM
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1200 songs! I can only put 800 on my 8GB Q3. Do you use shitty 128kbps mp3 files or?

BTW, try updating manually the library (settings>system>library update)
Do you use tags or folder navigation on the Q3?

And you don't need Kies to transfer files. The Q3 is MSC/UMS. Just copy&paste them in the Windows Explorer
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:32 AM
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Thank you for your prompt reply and trying to help me. Please accept that I am nave in such matters but I do not understand the relevance of the quality of the file to my problem. As I understand it the Q3 is supposed to support 3000 songs it appears to accept only 1000 and my memory is around half full.
I mentioned the use of Kies to show that I had used Samsung's software to transfer the files rather than deviating from their procedures.
I understand about the use of Explorer that is how I know that the 'missing' files ( at least those that I used as markers) are actually present in the Q3 memory quite apart from the fact that I can play them from the Q3 in Media Player. I also used both Q3/Kies and Explorer to delete and add files at a latter stage. Unless I reduce the number of songs below 1000 I cannot get the Q3 to exhibit new titles. I have a number of times and at various stages used the manual library update.
I am afraid that I do not understand your question concerning tags and folders. If by tags you mean file attributes such as artist, genre, albums etc. I have looked for my markers in all these ways. Explorer shows only one folder and the Q3's My files / music seems on the face of it to be the song list!
I was puzzled that if this was an inherent problem why it had not been noted before which is why I was asking what I had done wrong. Your mentioning that your file sizes were such as to allow only 800 titles may explain this.
I listen as one brought up on scratchy second hand 78 and 33s, coming late in life even to CDs so any form of digital sound is a revelation to me. If my problem is inherent then I may even try to improve my ear by going for a better quality but if anyone can resolve it I would prefer to enjoy a wider range of music through this wonderfully convenient medium of MP3.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:17 AM
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I was saying that if you are able to put 1200 songs on a 8GB R0, that probably means your files are not encoded at high bitrate but rather at poor bitrate and that's a pity given the audio capacities of the Q3. But that depends on your ears and your earphones, just a question of personal preferences, of course you are allowed to encode your files at the quality you want, I won't tell you what you have to do^^

So indeed your problem is a real problem. The Q3 has to be able to recognize more than 1000 files and if it is actually not able to, I'll have to report this bug to the R&D and hopefully it will be fixed in a next firmware.
The best would be I try to load more than 1000 songs onto my Q3 and see if I have the same issue but first I have to find lower bitrates files somewhere otherwise I will never reach 1000 songs.


edit: I successfully put 1035 songs on my Q3 and all of them are recognized by the device.
Please make this test:
Put more than 1000 songs on the Q3. Download the freeware mp3tag here. Choose the full install. Connect the Q3 to the computer in MSC mode. Right click on the "Music" folder in the Q3 memory> select mp3tag in the context menu. It will load the files and display "reading tag data xxx of ????" Please tell me what's the number at the place of "????".
Then disconnect the Q3, power it on and go to Music>Songs. On the right corner next to the battery indicator it displays x/????. Please tell me the number.
MP3Tag and the Q3 should give you the same number.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:47 PM
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Hi thanks for the suggestions. The mp3tag software shows 1238 files and the song list shows the 1000 a number which has never been exceeded each time that I have checked. I hope that this means more to you than it does to me!
Thanks once again
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:53 PM
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That's weird
There is no reason my Q3 can show 1035 files but yours only 1000.

Please try that:
Format the memory from the player settings or from Windows (FAT32). Upgrade to firmware 1.39.
Put all your songs on the Q3 again. Once again, check how many songs are recognized in Music>Songs but check also if the files are shown in Music>Music Browser (that's what I meant by 'folders navigation' in a previous post)
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