android
  #1  
Old 09-03-2008, 03:58 PM
bungo bungo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5
Talking 3 ?'s...How do ya & why does it?

I cant find an answer for this so Ive come to you all...

1. Lets say Im playing a tune & want it to just stop. How do I/can I do that without shutting down the player or starting something else in its place?

2. Twice now Ive awakened from sleep & Ive seen the ZEN screen flash on for a few seconds & then shut down again.
Before bed I shut it down & leave it lying on my dresser with my wallet, key, etc.
It happens quickly but it does happen ( how often I dont know!? ) & I just go back to sleep. There dosent seem to be any battery discharge either.

3. And lastly, when I plug in a jack for headphones or cassette/radio connect into the player while its off there seems to be a electrical current present. Is this normal? Should I be putting the off switch into lock mode after Ive shut down the player?

Wots...uh, the deal?
Reply With Quote

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]

  #2  
Old 09-03-2008, 04:34 PM
mc.p2 mc.p2 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 67
Default

1. You can usually just press play/pause, but if you are in the videos menu for example it will play the video, so I have the shortcut button set to go to now playing, so I can stop it from there.

2. ??? I've never seen this happen to mine. People have posted that their screen flashes sometimes when they unplug their headphones, maybe it is related to that.

3. I've also noticed this. I suspect it could be "listening" for a remote or providing power for a remote, but I don't know for sure.
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 09-03-2008, 04:57 PM
sumx4182's Avatar
sumx4182 sumx4182 is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Medina, Ohio
Posts: 2,194
Default

i can almost feel what is coming next...

"I know about pause, I want to 'stop'!!"

If that was the next thing to be posted...continue reading...if not, then look away.

I am copying this from the last time I saw this question posted...which was coincidentally copied from the time before that...

Quote:
Originally Posted by me (i'm now quoting three generations of threads!)
as quoted from the last time some one mentioned the "stop" button...

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumx4182 "pause button aficionado"
ok guys...here we go again...

Digital players do not require a stop button. Analogue players (cassette players for example) required a stop button because for them, there was a fundamental difference between stop and pause...when you paused the player, the head was still resting against the magnetic tape that the audio was recorded on to. Thus, there was additional stress and wear and tear on the tape if you allowed it to sit on pause for a long while. The stop button removed the head from the tape altogether. For digital players, music is encoded into 1's and 0's in a digital stream of information that is translated into audio. The pause button stops this stream of information and remembers where the stream left off. But since there is no "tape and head", there is no adverse effect on the system as there was with analogue players. Thus, there is no difference between "stop" and "pause". It's just semantics really...if you want to stop and start a new task...just start a new task, it's not that hard... A song is playing, rather than stopping it and selecting a new one...go to the menu, select a new song, and play it. The first one will cease playing and the second one will begin. There's either signal or no signal. It doesn't matter if your stopping it, pausing it, or blowing it up...
__________________
Very cool ABi threads that you should enjoy: Demographic|Useless Knowledge|Guess That Movie|Currently Listening to...|Post Your Pic|What is it? game|More difficult What is it? game|
If you feel your thread is worthy...PM me!
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 09-03-2008, 05:44 PM
bungo bungo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumx4182 View Post
i can almost feel what is coming next...

"I know about pause, I want to 'stop'!!"

If that was the next thing to be posted...continue reading...if not, then look away.

I am copying this from the last time I saw this question posted...which was coincidentally copied from the time before that...
Terrific explanation to ? 1! Thanks!!!

? 3 was expained as to the what may be happening but what about the "How to" make it stop. Can this be done?

Does placing the power switch in the 'LOCK' position when shut down have any sort of effect on the player?
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 09-03-2008, 06:22 PM
sumx4182's Avatar
sumx4182 sumx4182 is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Medina, Ohio
Posts: 2,194
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bungo View Post
Terrific explanation to ? 1! Thanks!!!

? 3 was expained as to the what may be happening but what about the "How to" make it stop. Can this be done?

Does placing the power switch in the 'LOCK' position when shut down have any sort of effect on the player?
great, i'm glad I could help and you may be the first OP to respond kindly to it! haha.
__________________
Very cool ABi threads that you should enjoy: Demographic|Useless Knowledge|Guess That Movie|Currently Listening to...|Post Your Pic|What is it? game|More difficult What is it? game|
If you feel your thread is worthy...PM me!
Reply With Quote

  #6  
Old 09-04-2008, 10:22 AM
Woembah's Avatar
Woembah Woembah is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 84
Default

You can stop the song you're playing: Pause the current song and then press the 'backwards/left' key.
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 09-04-2008, 04:06 PM
sumx4182's Avatar
sumx4182 sumx4182 is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Medina, Ohio
Posts: 2,194
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woembah View Post
You can stop the song you're playing: Pause the current song and then press the 'backwards/left' key.
::makes the 'over your head' gesture::
__________________
Very cool ABi threads that you should enjoy: Demographic|Useless Knowledge|Guess That Movie|Currently Listening to...|Post Your Pic|What is it? game|More difficult What is it? game|
If you feel your thread is worthy...PM me!
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 09-04-2008, 08:19 PM
BobbyRS's Avatar
BobbyRS BobbyRS is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 6,575
Default

Hello bungo.

Quote:
3. And lastly, when I plug in a jack for headphones or cassette/radio connect into the player while its off there seems to be a electrical current present. Is this normal? Should I be putting the off switch into lock mode after Ive shut down the player?
From the Zen FAQ:

Quote:
When the Zen is off and I plug in my headphones, the screen flashes all white for a split second and the blue power indicator light, lights up. Why does the Zen do this?

Here is the thought behind this: A capacitor, perhaps within the output of the power amp is discharging. The Zen only seems to do this for a period of time after the Zen is turned off. After a period of time (after turning off the Zen), before plugging in the headphones, the screen doesn't seem to do this. Most likely due to the power finally discharging slowly on its own. Also, once the headphones are plugged in and the screen flashes white, the Zen doesn't seem to flash white again afterwards.


I also believe that your number 2 question is related to a similar cause like question/issue number 3.
__________________
.
~Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear to be bright until they speak~

Zen FAQ
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 09-06-2008, 08:08 AM
bungo bungo is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 5
Talking

Thanks for all the explanations.

Im not quite so paranoid that Creative is somehow doing some secret thing in the middle of the night & that was the reason my lil' player was secretly waking up & silently sending personal info about me to Creative headquarters.
But I suppose only M$'s Bill G. is still doing that, huh!?

No one has remarked on it & I havent noticed anything, so I take it that putting the on/off switch into the lock position after powering off has no effect at all...
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 09-06-2008, 09:49 AM
BobbyRS's Avatar
BobbyRS BobbyRS is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 6,575
Default

Quote:
Thanks for all the explanations.
No problem.

Quote:
But I suppose only M$'s Bill G. is still doing that, huh!?
And the millions of spyware deveolpers/companies that run within their OS.

Quote:
No one has remarked on it & I havent noticed anything, so I take it that putting the on/off switch into the lock position after powering off has no effect at all...
Not sure. You're the first I've heard comment on doing that.
__________________
.
~Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear to be bright until they speak~

Zen FAQ
Reply With Quote

  #11  
Old 09-06-2008, 01:25 PM
mc.p2 mc.p2 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 67
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bungo View Post
No one has remarked on it & I havent noticed anything, so I take it that putting the on/off switch into the lock position after powering off has no effect at all...
Nope, no effect.
Reply With Quote

  #12  
Old 09-06-2008, 04:19 PM
werezenwolf's Avatar
werezenwolf werezenwolf is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 488
Default

I had heard that #2 happened when the player went from the 'stand by' "off", to the real "off". sorry don't know if there are technical names for those states

My Zen Vision:M, Zen 4 GB, and my Zen Microphoto all do this.
__________________
Zen Stone Plus 2g, Zen 4g, Zen Micro 5g, Zen VM 30g, Sandisk Sansa C240, Sandisk 1g silver
*all currently operational*
Reply With Quote

  #13  
Old 09-06-2008, 07:10 PM
BobbyRS's Avatar
BobbyRS BobbyRS is offline
Ultra Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 6,575
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by werezenwolf View Post
I had heard that #2 happened when the player went from the 'stand by' "off", to the real "off". sorry don't know if there are technical names for those states

My Zen Vision:M, Zen 4 GB, and my Zen Microphoto all do this.
Yeah, that would make a little sense, but that wouldn't explain why it would do this repeatedly which many have noted. The Zen appears to do this for the duration of being in stand-by mode and eventually stops flashing when it does finally turn off.
__________________
.
~Light travels faster than sound, which is why some people appear to be bright until they speak~

Zen FAQ
Reply With Quote

Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 AM.