Freezing when deleting media

[mcbobie]

My Fuze has just started acting up whenever I ry to delete something with the player it freezes up, I then have to turn it off and back on, then I get the refrshing media bar and all is well, till I try to delete again. Anybody else have this problem?

[CrowdAds]

[V3ndetta]

It hasn't happened before? But it jsut started now?

[mcbobie]

Originally Posted by V3ndetta

It hasn't happened before? But it jsut started now?

Correct I've had for over a month now and this just started.

[201d]

I've had that problem since day one :-(

I just decided i'd delete the stuff when sync-ing

[rogerbinns]

I just got a new Fuze the other day and see this with podcasts which I delete after listening to. Firmware 15 and MSC mode. Basically it is actually deleting the file, it is just that the firmware is eye wateringly slow at it and doesn't update while the deletion is happening. If you wait long enough things will resume. In my case long enough is about a minute. Amusingly it often has long pauses just entering the yes/no delete confirmation where the wheel has no effect for about 15 seconds.

My best guess at the underlying cause is that the firmware is trying to remove the tag information from the tag database. mp3 tags can be stored at the begining or end of file depending on version etc. Chances are the player is reading the entire file from the begining to end to find all tags. Combine that with the VBR bug (where it slows the cpu on low bitrate frames and then is too slow on a following high bitrate frame) and it all makes for good speculation.

[Marvin the Martian]

Originally Posted by mcbobie

My Fuze has just started acting up whenever I ry to delete something with the player it freezes up, I then have to turn it off and back on, then I get the refrshing media bar and all is well, till I try to delete again. Anybody else have this problem?

Originally Posted by 201d

I've had that problem since day one :-(

I just decided i'd delete the stuff when sync-ing

Originally Posted by rogerbinns

I just got a new Fuze the other day and see this with podcasts which I delete after listening to. Firmware 15 and MSC mode. Basically it is actually deleting the file, it is just that the firmware is eye wateringly slow at it and doesn't update while the deletion is happening. If you wait long enough things will resume. In my case long enough is about a minute. Amusingly it often has long pauses just entering the yes/no delete confirmation where the wheel has no effect for about 15 seconds.

My best guess at the underlying cause is that the firmware is trying to remove the tag information from the tag database. mp3 tags can be stored at the begining or end of file depending on version etc. Chances are the player is reading the entire file from the begining to end to find all tags. Combine that with the VBR bug (where it slows the cpu on low bitrate frames and then is too slow on a following high bitrate frame) and it all makes for good speculation.

I've also been deleting while syncing the last few days, since this happened to me.....but tomorrow I'll try again and try to remember to be patient and see if it actually is just going really slow. It has made no difference whether or not my microsdhc is inserted.....so one variable eliminated, anyway

[Marvin the Martian]

figures.....it works perfectly today...lol

[ranger67]

Just a thought on why the "delete" is soooo slow. What if, Instead of just deleting entries, the unit is also performing a "refreshing media" in the background. I've timed it, and the delete and initial "refreshing media" seem to be almost identical.

[Marvin the Martian]

Originally Posted by ranger67

Just a thought on why the "delete" is soooo slow. What if, Instead of just deleting entries, the unit is also performing a "refreshing media" in the background. I've timed it, and the delete and initial "refreshing media" seem to be almost identical.

That makes sense, except that mine stopped doing it....so I dunno