software for creating playlists?

[triarii117]

What program can I use to create playlists with the music already on my P3?

I really wish the P3 had the same playlist creation capabilities the Zen has...

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[Detroit]

I use Media Monkey when trying to put playlists on my P2. Sometimes there'll be a glitch like two of the same playlist.

[triarii117]

Hm, OK. I use drag and drop at the moment. Does media monkey let you make playlists with the stuff currently on the player?

[Dreamnine]

What's wrong with the 5 on-the-go playlists? If I need another playlist I just create a folder using Windows and drag that to the player.

[Detroit]

That doesn't create duplicates of the song? I don't have a P3 yet but AFAIK playlists on my P2 have to be a .pla or something.

[TomCat39]

P3 Playlists are text files. I don't recall the extension off hand but you can easily make them with notepad and rename the extension.

The key is the extension and a header and a footer label.

Open an already created playlist with notepad and you will see what is required, and you can make changes or new ones from scratch easily.

[triarii117]

Originally Posted by Dreamnine

What's wrong with the 5 on-the-go playlists? If I need another playlist I just create a folder using Windows and drag that to the player.

It has a limit to the number of songs you can have on it. And I like naming my playlists. Picky, picky, picky, I know

Originally Posted by TomCat39

P3 Playlists are text files. I don't recall the extension off hand but you can easily make them with notepad and rename the extension.

The key is the extension and a header and a footer label.

Open an already created playlist with notepad and you will see what is required, and you can make changes or new ones from scratch easily.

I'll look into that and see what I find.

[TomCat39]

Just so you know, even manually made playlists have a limit of 400 songs.

I made one with 492 songs in the list and the player only showed 400.

[electron]

Im pretty sure that the extension for a playlist is .dat because that is what VLC media player uses...

[triarii117]

Oh, you can use VLC to make playlists for it?

[TomCat39]

Originally Posted by electron

Im pretty sure that the extension for a playlist is .dat because that is what VLC media player uses...

Actually the extension is .spl

And the text file must be converted to Unicode. I use Unicode DOS format for my MTP YP-P3 player.

The playlist has this format:

SPL PLAYLIST
VERSION 2.00

\Music\WhateverFolderYouAddedUnderMusicFolder\SomeSong.mp3/ogg/fla

END PLAYLIST

myDNSe DATA

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

END myDNSe

The DNSe data will have numbers corresponging to your DNSe attached to the playlist. The way I found this was by first creating a playlist in emodio that had a customDNSe tied to it, then transfering them to the P3.

My playlists don't have all zero's for the DNSe, I removed my settings from the above example.

The above example only has one song in the playlist. Maximum the P3 will recognize from a playlist file is 400 songs.

[triarii117]

That works, but seems like a pain >.>

[TomCat39]

Originally Posted by triarii117

That works, but seems like a pain >.>

If you are talking about the DNSe part, I'm sure you can remove that section completely and just run with whatever DNSe you have setup in the P3.

I haven't tested it, but I think the DNSe section was only added because I had a custom DNSe attached to the playlist in emodio. So I don't know if that section is in the playlist at all times.

Personally, I don't use playlists because of the 400 song limit. I make folders under music and stick the songs I want into them, then I use the file browser and play whichever folder I'm in the mood for.

Or in the case of an Artist Discography, I use artist, play all feature being that there are multiple subfolders under the main folder I added (album folders under artist folder).

And I use the myDNSe setting and editted the user settings to my preference.

But that's just what I found works best for me with my 1000 song playlists.

[triarii117]

Originally Posted by TomCat39

If you are talking about the DNSe part, I'm sure you can remove that section completely and just run with whatever DNSe you have setup in the P3.

I haven't tested it, but I think the DNSe section was only added because I had a custom DNSe attached to the playlist in emodio. So I don't know if that section is in the playlist at all times.

Personally, I don't use playlists because of the 400 song limit. I make folders under music and stick the songs I want into them, then I use the file browser and play whichever folder I'm in the mood for.

Or in the case of an Artist Discography, I use artist, play all feature being that there are multiple subfolders under the main folder I added (album folders under artist folder).

And I use the myDNSe setting and editted the user settings to my preference.

But that's just what I found works best for me with my 1000 song playlists.

I meant the whole process. I'll just make use of the default 5 pre-made ones. Or just not use them at all and play by genre.