Ok so I really can't find just a discussion sub forum on here so I'm going to put this here, move it if you need to. Just wanted to stop in and say I am a new Zen video 4gb user as of two days ago and I'm pretty impressed with what you get for the money and how easy this thing is to use. I have had both zune and ipod and by far this one is the easiest and most bang for the buck. I owned a 30gb Zune video but way to bulky so traded it for Ipod classic 30gb, liked it ok. Sold the ipod classic and got the ipod touch because I thought yeah I can surf the internet anywhere there is a hot spot but that got old quick. So I played with the thought of getting a 4gb ipod nano video for a month or so, but after seeing the price compared to the Zen I changed my mind quickly. I wanted a media player that also had the capability of FM radio so the Zen came to mind. The fact that the Zen had a SD slot available for extra storage was a huge selling point. I will admit the click wheel is alot better and nice looking but the ease of the Zen organizer is 10x better than crappy ol Itunes in my opinion. I hated Itunes the whole time I used it and could never really grasp how to use it really really good. I guess I am just a basic click here and transfer kind of guy, itunes made that a lot harder for some reason. The Zen could definately do something better with the FM radio setup, not just autoscan but allow you to type in your radio stations like the Zune does. Anyway overall I am very pleased with the Zen for the money and all that it can do. I purchased a 4gb video for $96 and then purchased a 4gb SD card from Office Depot for $23. So for $119 I got a brand new 8gb Zen and would have had to spend $150+ for a brand new 4gb ipod nano. I was always one to join the band wagon and go with what you see all over commericials and hear everyone talking about (ipod, zune) but now I realize do a lil research and try other products out and you might just benefit more.