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Old 11-28-2008, 08:48 PM
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Could someone kindly comment or post a few high resolution pics on the possible use of O2 as an ebook reader? Is it easy on the eyes? I understand PDFs are a pain but what about TXT? Has anyone actually finished a book? Uh, and if you're comfortable reading books from screens half its size, please take into consideration people with sensitive eyes

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Old 11-29-2008, 07:13 PM
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The O2 as an ebook reader is a good idea. Maybe an user app will be made for a better text file viewer than that of the one on the cowon O2 already.

I had a txt file of a story I'm writing put on my Cowon O2 and it looked great to my eyes, but when it came to scrolling up and down the text, with one small flick the text moved past about 2-5 paragraphs. I could use the arrows on the scroll thing on the left side but that only moves the text down one line. If I were you I would not buy the Cowon O2 for reading books as I could not stand to read a whole book on it. Music, great! Video, awesome! Text, not so great . . . .
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Old 11-29-2008, 08:21 PM
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The O2 as an ebook reader is a good idea. Maybe an user app will be made for a better text file viewer than that of the one on the cowon O2 already.

I had a txt file of a story I'm writing put on my Cowon O2 and it looked great to my eyes, but when it came to scrolling up and down the text, with one small flick the text moved past about 2-5 paragraphs. I could use the arrows on the scroll thing on the left side but that only moves the text down one line. If I were you I would not buy the Cowon O2 for reading books as I could not stand to read a whole book on it. Music, great! Video, awesome! Text, not so great . . . .
I am interested in the machine as an all-around media player, what I like about it ebook-wise is that the text editor supports many languages (or so it says in the manual). Sony's ebook reader for all its e-ink glory needs to be hacked to display Russian, Japanese is even worse. Kindle does not support non-Latin characters. Thanks, I know that some people were able to finish a book or two on the D2. Hopefully the scrolling issue will get resolved. BTW, great video review!

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:23 PM
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If you can read comfortably on a computer screen without increasing the size of the text you should be fine with the O2 - I'm not sure what point font it is, but I can read it comfortably from around 4 feet away and I don't have the greatest eyesight in the world. I haven't finished a book on it yet (just arrived today) but I'm sure I'll be able to, I read about 50 books on my D2.

As for the scrolling problem, just tap the left or right side of the screen and it moves in increments of one page.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:04 PM
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Thank you! I am satisfied with this, this makes it more worthwhile to me than a sony reader. Now if I only knew about audiobook performance
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:04 AM
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IMO, mp3 players and ebooks dont go well together. I have a nokia n800 internet tablet with an ereader app wtih loads of settings that technically work very well compared to such, but the problem is that as with other non-dedicated devices (or non mainstream uses) it won't play back DRM'ed ebooks. That might not be a problem for you, but the books I read I have to buy from mobipocket or ereader.com and actually have to crack them after i paid for them (!) to use them. As aresult i now use the ereader app on my ipod touch, which has way less seetings than the n800 reader but it can actually read the books. If you only plan on using txt files from the almighty internets, you'll be ok, but its something to be aware of.

Audiobooks is something cowon isnt good at. they have bookmarking on most their player, but it can ever replace dedicated audiobook handling like on the sansa clip and fuze. The O2 doesn't even support audible, which should be a given if you use audiobooks. Of course i dont know if you ever use audible or go the other route for audiobooks as well. Unfortunately, while ipods have the sound quality of a vacuum cleaner and itunes hangs about every 3 seconds, nothing beats it on non-music file handling such as audiobooks, podcasts, music videos, tv shows and with the ereader app - ebooks. The O2 will do you fine if you never buy ebooks or audible books, but its not a good choice otherwise. Still, with all the non-drm'ed content out there, you'd prob be fine as long as you know wheere to get it.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:41 AM
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Thank you. Maybe a good discussion will give me a few ideas.
ebooks - ipod screen is too small for me, it’s cool that the ipod apparently supports foreign characters, ipod touch is not worth it because of other issues. I'd like DRM support, I'm not sure I'd buy enough DRM'ed books to justify it. I wish they could resolve pdf issues on the O2.
I was looking for a GREAT mp3 player with a very large hard drive for my audioboks/music etc. As it turns out, I already had one, but I managed to burn the USB with a go..no madic AC charger. Apparently I'm not the only one. Creative no longer manufactures the player.
Ipods are great at bookmarking Apple book format and audible - they don't do it for mp3 audiobooks. You need to convert to their format, edit tags etc. This is not fun. The iPod natively does not support WMA or DRM'ed WMA. O2 does, but no DRM. My main heavy-duty use of the zen was as an on-and-off audiobook player. It would always resume where I left off. This is apparently a rare function on ipods and other mp3 players. I know that some Sansas support this, some don't but I lost patience about finding out which one would be a good fit for me. I avoid DRM or proprietary formats. I have never tried audible. Plenty of legally available MP3 audiobooks.
The current Zens have useless SD slots. I ended giving up on buying a dedicated large player, I ordered a tiny 2 GB Zen for its on and off function. I would still be interested in any recommendations for a dedicated large audiobook player.
O2 does not have instant autoresume - a bummer. It's on the bulky side. However it has a recent file function - which I consider more convenient than regular bookmarking. I rarely remember to set manual bookmarks. The seek bar should be very useful as well.<O</O

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Old 01-11-2009, 01:26 AM
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Alright, after using my O2 for a while and getting out my massive eBook collection I started reading a few books on my O2.

Now, I did have to convert the eBook to a TXT file but I'm begging to like it as a book reader. The screen has little page down buttons so you simply read a page of txt and hit the arrow and you continue on. You can set it to change the page every few seconds but I have yet to try this yet.

As for auto resume, the recent file fuction works wonders! I left off at 42% of a book and it resumed right were I left off. And I just put a book on this that I read up to chapter 17 and I easily found were I left off using the scroll thing. You can change the color of the txt and the size so it's useful for reading(And just about everything else)
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:08 AM
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I have read 20 books so far on my O2...yes full length novels.....
With the new firmware you can just swipe left for a page down and swipe right for a page up. Or you can hit the scroll wheel or even lock the device and use the volume buttons to move along pages.
If you are reading and turn it off, when you turn it on again it will be at the axact position you left it at...excellent for reading.
Also easily customizable! I use white text of font 12 on a black background and it is wonderful!
It is totally amazing as an ebook reader with that massive screen and customization. plus you can navigate the book while having it at full-screen with swiping and volume buttons on lock.....
Simply fantastic for reading books on.......
Only gripe is having to use a TXT file but that is not a major problem....battery life means that you can leave it on the whole day and pick it up whenever you want to read and then charge at night. Not to mention you can play music while reading!
FANTASTIC!
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:15 AM
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a little amount of text on a screen is better than reading a whole page of a book. EVERYONE has read a book and gotten halfway down a page and been like "i didnt comprehend a single word" with having to change a page frequently, you rarely or never lose focus...and like other people are saying you can change the color of the text and make the background darker...so in the end, it is easy on the eyes

audiobooks have one problem. that you play a directory if you listen to multiple chapters at a time, but stop in the middle and add a favorite, when you playback the favorite, it wont continue through the chapters but end at the end of that chapter...if that makes any sense
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:40 PM
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" with having to change a page frequently, you rarely or never lose focus...and like other people are saying you can change the color of the text and make the background darker...so in the end, it is easy on the eyes
this is very true....the book is so much more engrossing when you have to swipe every 30 seconds or so and change page (I use a very small font)....it goes so much more quickly as well and can be read any where at all even in total darkness due to the backlit screen....ebooks are plentiful and easy to obtain as well these days....even of new novels.......white text on a black background.....very very very easy on the eyes......
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:43 PM
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I'm curious, what format are your books in originally and what are you using to convert them?
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Old 01-13-2009, 02:29 PM
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Well foxit pdf reader does the best conversion job. My e-book are in many formats including txt, pdf, lit, pdb, doc, html and docx. It is very easy to convert those not already in pdf or txt into pdfs.

Then I use foxit reader to save as text which produces nicely formatted txt files....other conversion methods have less formatting and display poorly on the O2. However foxit leaves much of the original formatting in the pdf, removing only the pictures. This displays perfectly on the O2.
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Well foxit pdf reader does the best conversion job. My e-book are in many formats including txt, pdf, lit, pdb, doc, html and docx. It is very easy to convert those not already in pdf or txt into pdfs.

Then I use foxit reader to save as text which produces nicely formatted txt files....other conversion methods have less formatting and display poorly on the O2. However foxit leaves much of the original formatting in the pdf, removing only the pictures. This displays perfectly on the O2.
I used foxit for a pdf too. When I converted an ebook to text, the pages came out very poorly, and choppyish(a word, five spaces, jumbled worg, 8 spaces, etc.). Am i doing anything wrong?
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:43 AM
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PDF995 does the best job in converting PDF to less restrictive formats, in my opinion. It's free software, but might take some time to set it up right.

Foxit is a very good PDF reader, but a poor converter, in my experience.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:47 PM
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Ill def try that then. Ill let you know how it comes out
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The PDF995 was weird. I could not get the program to actually open up. It kept opening up my printer settings.
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Old 01-21-2009, 04:50 PM
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Yes, it's not easy to set up... but once it works it converts PDFs really well.
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Someone tried to read mangas (.jpg)?
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:49 AM
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well jpgs used to pixelate extremely badly when you zoom in on earlier firmwares, 1.15 and earlier. I haven't tried it on the newer firmware because I found a workaround. png's to a better job of rendering text than .jpg so I simply converted my naruto manga in jpgs to pngs. luckily the rest of my bleach, onepiece. d-grayman and soul eater manga were already in png so I read them on a regular basis on my O2. Since the picture reader supports swipes for rotation it is a breeze to zoom in, rotate for the best viewing angle, move within the picture to read and skip to the next picture with a few taps and swipes on the screen. You cannot drag the picture arounf like in the ipod touch but apart from that reading manga (in png format) is quite fine. It's lovely to be able to carry my entire manga collection in my pocket and read whichever I feel like continuing.

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