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Windows Phone 7 Series is official, and Microsoft is playing to win
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DAMMIT. you beated me to it
What are your thoughts on this TDS? Im betting this will only be available in the US, like the zune\ hd
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Here's a 22min video demo of Windows Phone 7 on MSDN.
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Everything I've read deals with the software...I wanna see specs. Plus, I'm sorry, but getting this would be getting in on the ground floor when Apple elevator is steadily climbing and Android isn't far behind. And seeing the way the apps are rolling out for the Zune HD, I don't think MS will ever catch up. I'm on the Android bandwagon...
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@sumxetc There arent any specs yet because no devices have been made for it yet. Did you notice they were using an unmarked phone?I highly doubt any mobile phone company has finalized anything for it yet, as its only due for release at the end of this year. The only thing to go on at the moment, is that MS is requiring manufacturers to meet certain specs to run WP7, namely, GPS, touch screen, and accelerometer.
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I agree with you on Android though. I had high hopes for Windows Phone 7 series, given that my last two phones were WinMo 6.1 and 6.5. The fact that Windows Phone is locked down and doesn't support multi-tasking means that it's a Microsoft Iphone, with over 100k fewer apps. As far as apps on the Zune HD vs. Windows Phone, MS has repeatedly stated that the Windows Phone app store will remain separate from the Zune HD apps. The Zune HD apps will be controlled as they are now, while the Windows Phone app store will be along the same lines as the Android and Iphone app stores. They will not be cross platform compatible. My guess based on this is that apps made for Windows Phone will not work on Zune HD, but apps made for Zune HD could possibly run on Windows Phone through the Zune software. Just a guess though. |
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I stand by my statement that it's a terrible move. Look at the iphone/touch. You make one app, and earn money from two different demographics. Why wouldn't a developer take advantage of that?
And yes, I realize that it was an unmarked phone and nothing is final. That's why i said i wanted to know what was coming in the way of hardware...
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Is anyone aware of what language is being used to code for the apps?
Only I do computing, and in the summer I need a piece of coursework. Since I will be replacing my phone anyway, it seems smart to chose a smart phone and try writing my own program for it. Maemo doesn't look to be putting anything out other than some 4 inch Goliath (to go along with the fat N900), so it's going to be WiPho 7 or android that I try to develop for...
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No multi-tasking?! Windows can do one
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Wonder if the things like app stores in Windows Mobile will be opened up to the Zune, since the Zune OS got opened up to Microsoft's phone department!
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Long winded explanation: Won't happen. While both the Zune HD and Windows Phone 7 are running off a kernel based on Windows CE 5.x, so is every version of Windows Mobile from 5 onward. Know what else uses parts of the Windows CE kernel? Some Sega Dreamcast games (using WinCE 2.x)! Care to try running those games on Zune or Windows Phone? What I'm saying is that while the kernel can be the same, the underlying OS can still be very much different. The version of WinCE being used on the Zune HD is very much stripped down, just as the version used on Dreamcast was. It's done for a very narrow and specific purpose. The Dreamcast used WinCE for a few games, while the Zune uses it for media playback. For Windows Mobile, the full suite of Windows CE is employed. This means that apps made specifically for Windows Phone 7 may or may not be easily ported to Zune HD. More than likely, Zune HD will remain a separate platform with the current closed app-store that it has. Windows Phone will be open to the new Windows app store, but I suspect that the Zune aspect of Windows Phone will allow it to play apps made for the Zune HD. It will be up to the developers to try to get their Windows Phone app over to the Zune Marketplace for use on the Zune HD. |
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let's hope they work on the interface.
I hope this is midori!! I hope they kill apple. kill. kill. kill. apple's domination over the market must end. If this is also a nvidia tegra device I am sure gonna get one. nvidia tegra+midori=WIN! |
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awesome! Thanks for the info
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The more competition in the touch screen smart phone market the better. I will keep an eye on this with interest.
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I would actually like an interface on this phone to have the following criteria to make it worthwhile:
1) Crisp, clear graphics that can be read from a ways away->this is very important if the device will be used as a GPS mounted on the dashboard of a vehicle, the driver must be able to see it from the driver's seat very easily. 2)customizable look and feel->this is extremely important, becuase each user wants something different. This also makes the experienced optimised for each user. I, for example want a dark high contrast theme since it is easy on my sensitive eyes, I also want some eyecandy as well. This interface pictured here is sharp, crisp, and legible, however there is very little to look at and it looks a tad boring. I suggest using graphical style from windows 7 to make it blend into the whole "7 experience" that MS made. That looks freindly, approachable, and still has a little eycandy but in a professional package. It looks much slicker and brings people into awe. The default interface pictured here kinda looks a little messy and doesnt bring you into it. it looks like the device can't do much. This kinda interface makes people take your device less seriously. 3) user exportable settings file for easy backup/recovery. 4)don't emphasise social networking as a main feature of the device becuase not all people use this and also if you do have this as a main feature, let the user be able to add the social networks of thier choice and NOT only facebook/myspace/twitter becuase I use multiple, I practically use everything but FB and twitter. I would like to be able to add, for example, gamerDNA or animeplanet or vampirefreaks or windows live, or livejournal, or blogspot stuff to my phone as well. If they practice this they would gain a much more rich user experience. |
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I'm on the fence here. I applaud Microsoft for requiring certain minimum specs and I would KILL for Tegra 2 in my phone, but what's the point if its got no apps or multitasking? I truly despise locked down devices. I'm also not really a fan of the UI, it just looks strange to me. The Xperia X10 on the other hand, just looks downright sexy. It definitely looks cool, however, I seriously doubt its going to be the amazing gadget we all want it to be.
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Why do you care? On a portable device. there's no way you'll be viewing stuff that is that complicated, and even if you are, mobile browsers seem to have relatively little to do with their desktop counterparts. Safari mobile (what's on the itouch) is really not much better than ie mobile. Just be glad you're not getting the crap that's on the psp.
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It's a matter of principle. I don't support IE at all for a number of reasons (primarily the laughable security, generally poor performance, and non-compliance with web standards), plus I've read more than a few articles that state IE mobile is slower than WebKit based ones.
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