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Old 07-07-2012, 04:55 PM
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I know there's difference between internal hardware on fuze v1 and v2. Is the hardware on v2 the same as on the Clip? I mean is the sound quality the same? Because I know there's difference in sound between fuze v1 and v2.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:42 PM
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I know there's difference between internal hardware on fuze v1 and v2. Is the hardware on v2 the same as on the Clip? I mean is the sound quality the same? Because I know there's difference in sound between fuze v1 and v2.
Fuze V1 and V2 and Clip and Clip+ all sounded the same to me....and I had multiple examples of them all.
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:01 PM
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I know there's difference between internal hardware on fuze v1 and v2. Is the hardware on v2 the same as on the Clip? I mean is the sound quality the same? Because I know there's difference in sound between fuze v1 and v2.
Care to share how you "know" there's a difference in SQ between a V1 and V2 Fuze?

Like Marv I've had several of each. I've never heard any differences in casual listening. I've also recorded the signals and attempted to ABX a difference with a uniform lack of success. I've also seen RMAA results that show they all put out the same signal to a degree that human hearing can't distinguish a difference.

If there's another credible set of objective test that show a audible difference, please link them. I'm always interested in learning more.

If it's someones subjective "I hear this difference" without any objective test results I wouldn't bother. I've read a ton of those, sometimes from highly regarded reviewers, that later proved to be unfounded. As long as they knew which was being played, they heard a difference. My experience is that sighted evaluation of sound quality is meaningless to anyone except that person.

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Old 07-08-2012, 06:37 PM
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I know there's difference between internal hardware on fuze v1 and v2. Is the hardware on v2 the same as on the Clip?
The version-1 Fuze’s system on a chip is similar to the version-2 Fuze’s system on a chip. The version-2 Fuze’s system on a chip is the same as the Clip+’s system on a chip. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#Models.
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I mean is the sound quality the same? Because I know there's difference in sound between fuze v1 and v2.
I have a Clip+, version-1 Fuze, and version-2 Fuzes. They all sound about the same.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:42 AM
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I have a Clip (round front) and then a Clip+ and definitely noticed a difference. Earlier one was more 'spacious sounding' and felt less dense. Though I must be imagining it. But later I bought another refurbished Clip (v1/2?) and it definitely had the sound of the original one, so I would go along with the theory that there is a difference in sound.

Are they really exactly the same?

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Old 08-19-2012, 05:33 AM
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Since you're willing to ignore what's been posted previously in this thread why bother asking? Go with what your ears tell you.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:41 AM
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Since you're willing to ignore what's been posted previously in this thread why bother asking? Go with what your ears tell you.
How do you know he ignored it - he's only posted one message - the first one - on this thread?
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:52 AM
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How do you know he ignored it - he's only posted one message - the first one - on this thread?
I was addressing you. Your message is directly above mine so I didn't feel the need to quote it.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:30 PM
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I was addressing you. Your message is directly above mine so I didn't feel the need to quote it.
Ah I see, it was that you said 'why bother asking' but I didn't ask anything so I didn't know you meant me.

It's odd. All I can say is I repeatedly spotted the difference in blind testing. But even that is not proof.

Sorry to ask again, but are the insides exactly the same?
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:38 PM
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It's odd. All I can say is I repeatedly spotted the difference in blind testing.
Mismatched volume levels probably.

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Sorry to ask again, but are the insides exactly the same?
Yes, see the posts above yours in this thread.
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Are they really exactly the same?
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How do you know he ignored it - he's only posted one message - the first one - on this thread?
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I was addressing you. Your message is directly above mine so I didn't feel the need to quote it.
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Ah I see, it was that you said 'why bother asking' but I didn't ask anything so I didn't know you meant me.
So, "Are they really exactly the same?" isn't a question then? Sure looks like it to me. If not, then I guess we can also ignore your latest non-question:

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