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Old 01-17-2015, 12:08 PM
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Unhappy Clip Zip discontinued

Was looking for a 2nd Clip Zip and just noticed that most French webshops don't sell it anymore.

I also checked on Amazon.fr/de/es/it/com/co.uk: Amazon itself only have a very few left in stock. Most of Clip Zip still available are now sold by marketplace sellers at crazy prices.

On Amazon FR only the 8GB grey version is still sold and shipped by Amazon.
But I already have it in that color so I want my backup Clip Zip to be black instead.
For a few hours today they claimed that they'll get the black one in stock again from January 25th. So I ordered it immediately. Now it's listed as out of stock again. Will see if I'll get the very last one or if that was a mistake.

Amazon US and UK explicitly say "Discontinued by Manufacturer".

If you want one, I suggest you to get it soon from a trusty seller before it's too late.
I don't trust all those marketplace sellers who sometimes still have in stock long-discontinued products. You don't know how their stocking conditions are and in the end, how healthy the battery will be.

Looks like Sandisk killed the Clip Zip because of the similar Clip Sport.
RIP Clip Zip (2011-2014)
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Old 01-17-2015, 03:41 PM
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Aw that sucks, hope you get the one you ordered. I've heard many great things about the Clips, mainly the Clip+ though. The only downside I've noticed about the Sport when compared to the Zip is that it seems flimsier and plasticy. But I haven't actually held any in my hand, only read specs online.. So I think it's a smart thing to phase one of them out since they're so similar apart from aesthetics.
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:27 PM
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There's a major difference between the Zip and the Sport: No rockbox for the Sport
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:31 PM
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Clip Zip+?
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:33 PM
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Aw that sucks, hope you get the one you ordered. I've heard many great things about the Clips, mainly the Clip+ though. The only downside I've noticed about the Sport when compared to the Zip is that it seems flimsier and plasticy. But I haven't actually held any in my hand, only read specs online.. So I think it's a smart thing to phase one of them out since they're so similar apart from aesthetics.
There are many more downsides to the Clip Sport, it sadly shouldn't even be a contender for anyone looking for a mp3 player. Build quality wise I liked the Sport size and look more than the aforementioned clips, but it's what's going on inside that matters, and it's bad.
And no rockbox can save it
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Clip Zip+?
Unfortunately, seemingly nothing on the at least immediate horizon . . . . And I want my UberClip!
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:42 AM
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There's a major difference between the Zip and the Sport: No rockbox for the Sport
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There are many more downsides to the Clip Sport, it sadly shouldn't even be a contender for anyone looking for a mp3 player. Build quality wise I liked the Sport size and look more than the aforementioned clips, but it's what's going on inside that matters, and it's bad.
And no rockbox can save it
Oh, I see. That's too bad.
I've never actually used Rockbox in anything though... My days of using a dedicated MP3 died out after my X-Fi2 became old and obsolete. I mostly listen to streaming internet radio anyway these days.
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:21 AM
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Look at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENXFi2Port
Just for fun
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While it's sad to hear it's discontinued I can't say I'm surprised. With the market for mp3 players having shrunk the way it has the features of the Clip+, and Clip Zip and Sport have too much overlap to continue offering them all. The Clip+ has been the #1 best seller on amazon for what seems like forever and the sport is relatively new. That has axing the Zip make the most sense.
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Old 01-18-2015, 10:24 AM
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Neat, very similar to flashing custom Android ROMs which I've done for years. Don't think I'll give it a shot though, I'm not even sure where my X-Fi2 is. It's in a drawer somewhere.. Maaaybe even somewhere behind my screen on my cluttered desk...

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While it's sad to hear it's discontinued I can't say I'm surprised. With the market for mp3 players having shrunk the way it has the features of the Clip+, and Clip Zip and Sport have too much overlap to continue offering them all. The Clip+ has been the #1 best seller on amazon for what seems like forever and the sport is relatively new. That has axing the Zip make the most sense.
A couple of years back I was close to buying a Clip+. It has a very good form factor for portable audio in my taste.
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I bought a second Clip+ a few months back, when my Fuse died. My first + is still going strong though. I think the + represents the zenith of Clip-dom. The Zip, to me, didn't offer any real improvement and was actually inferior in a few respects. So RIP Zip.

It would be nice to see genuine improved Clip from SanDisk. I much prefer mine to listening on a smart phone.
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Good thing I purchased a spare player last year in March. Bestbuy had them on (4GB) clearance for $19.99 at that time. Got a red one for myself & a black one for my 90yr.old aunt.
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My backup Clip Zip has arrived



It came already in latest fw V01.01.21 so fairly recent. The battery should be healthy.



The screen is different. My 2011 Clip Zip has a WiseChip one while this new one has a Visionox screen.
Colors are different. They look more vivid on the new one. White is more white too. But this may be partly due to my 1st Clip Zip screen getting old.

The only major change I noticed between my old and my new Clip Zip is the jack output. No more loose jack. You now have to push and pull hard to plug in and plug out your earphones.
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My backup Clip Zip has arrived



It came already in latest fw V01.01.21 so fairly recent. The battery should be healthy.



The screen is different. My 2011 Clip Zip has a WiseChip one while this new one has a Visionox screen.
Colors are different. They look more vivid on the new one. White is more white too. But this may be partly due to my 1st Clip Zip screen getting old.

The only major change I noticed between my old and my new Clip Zip is the jack output. No more loose jack. You now have to push and pull hard to plug in and plug out your earphones.
How did you get to that screen to get that info?
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Just upgrade your firmware using clpzt.bin as filename.
Then you'll get a Diagnostic menu in the settings.
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Just bought one that has a broken clip but is otherwise in great shape for posterity.
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I parked the last Clip Zip I have a while back. I've used it a few of times for battery benches but that's about it. I was thinking about getting another one but I've had 3 of them at different times. As I thought it over I came to realize I just don't like the CZ very much. Nothing really wrong with it's performance, it's just not a favorite.

Adding the crappy color screen and album art took it a step back from the Clip+ imo. Album art on a 96x96 screen just doesn't add anything significant for me. In some ways it took away from the simplicity of the Clip+ in the OF. There were any number of times the AA simply didn't display. Refreshing the database usally got it working again but that sometimes took over a half hour and could drain the battery quite a bit. Didn't seem worth it to see blurry, pixelated AA.

Tagging is also somewhat quirky using the OF. I sometimes had files that I had tagged with fb2k that displayed everywhere else reliably that came up as Unknown Artist, Album or with some oddball genre . I could correct it by re-tagging them with MP3Tag but that meant another database refresh. Bleh.
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I like the clip+ better too when comparing them by OF. I hate the look of the Zip's OF and that of the + is cool and retro, so for me the difference comes down to Rockbox usability and for me the Zip's bigger screen is better for most of the text-only themes.
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Adding the crappy color screen and album art took it a step back from the Clip+ imo. Album art on a 96x96 screen just doesn't add anything significant for me. In some ways it took away from the simplicity of the Clip+ in the OF.
Really? You don't run Rockbox on it? I use Rockbox on the Clip Zip with a custom theme that is monocolor, displays no artwork, and uses a larger, easy to read font.

IMO, the Clip Zip with Rockbox beats the Clip+ hands down. If it weren't for Rockbox, though, I wouldn't even own a SanDisk DAP.
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:49 PM
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I use Rockbox most of the time but not exclusively. Rockbox doesn't handle MTP and I listen to Overdrive books.

Rockbox is also unable to transform the screen into one that is able display AA nicely. The text only themes I use help but I still prefer the screen of the Clip+. That's a matter of taste so I can't see any reason to argue over a preference.

Rockbox or no I'd still have a Clip+. Over the last several years I've bought at least a couple dozen small DAPs looking for something that had an equivalent feature set. I didn't find one and there doesn't seem to be anything like it in the pipeline so I'll stick with what works well for me.
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